When Israel
is mighty.
From an interview with Yossi Gurvitz. ( Video)
Now we all
know what, according to the rabbi’s, is
the origin of judaïsm: Moshe passed the Torah down to the elders, the elders
passed the Torah down to the prophets, etc., all the way down to the Talmud,
and there were no changes.
The central
motif of the Jewish understanding of history is that there were no changes ( in
the religion). In other words, what the rabbis are saying now are merely minor
refinements of what the rabbis had said during the time of the ‘Elders’ –the
time of the Mishnah and the Talmud.
Now, first of
all, the problem with this version of history is that it is completely
baseless. And second of all, that it has a few historical problems, and these
historical problems continue to this day,
due to the fact that Judaism as a religion has been frozen in time for
the last 1800 years.
1 min.
Generally
speaking, Rabbinical Judaism, as it appears in the Talmud – unlike what is
generally taught in secular schools – the source of Judaism is not the Bible.(
sic. )
The source of
Judaism is the Talmud. The people who
wrote the Talmud are the ones who decided what books would be included in the
Biblical canon. What they decided wouldn’t go in, didn’t go in.
So for
example, while the Catholic Church included the Books of the Maccabees in its
version of the canon, Judaism did not preserve them, and in fact only the Greek
version of them was preserved.
Whether there
were ever Hebrew or Aramaic versions of them is an interesting question, but
only Christianity preserved them.
The Book of
Judith. The Book of Tobias. Many other books, mostly dealing with the Jews of
the Diaspora, didn’t make it into the Jewish Biblical canon, and were only
preserved by Christianity.
Now the Judaism that preceded Rabbinical
Judaism was pretty much erased from history. In other words, there’s not enough
information to know what happened then.
2 min.
We know there
were Sadducees, there were Pharisees – the
Pharisees are the Rabbinical Jews -
there were Essenes – we don’t know anything about them for certain, and
the reason we don’t know anything about them for certain is that when their
enemies were victorious, the Pharisees established more than 10 religious
holidays to celebrate their victories
over the Sadducees, they simply erased them from history.
So you have
to eke a fragment ( of information) out of a fragment ( of information) , so
you can say, “Maybe it was like this” or “Maybe it was like that” – it’s
impossible to know what really happened.
What we
do know is this: from very early on, Rabbinical Judaism is a Judaism that hates
humans.
It defines
only Jews as humans – only Jews who
believe in the religion as humans.
Okay, let’s
get this exactly right: it defines only Jews who believe in the religion and
are men – as full humans. And everyone else is some level; of ‘other’, that
must be pushed aside, or, in extreme
cases, destroyed.
3 min.
Rabbinical
Jewish law does not prohibit – okay, that’s not accurate…. Rabbinical Jewish law prohibits the killing of a non-Jew, but it does
not punish a person for doing so.
In other
words, if you kill a Jew, even a Jewish woman, even the slave of a Jew- and
here it’s important to note that Orthodox Judaism has never abolished slavery-
then there’s a penalty to have to pay. It could come to execution, or it
could be a fine. They didn’t have jails.
But if you kill a non-Jew then you’re
guilty, but there is no penalty. God will punish you.
And that is –
how shall I put it? – a bit problematic.
When you say
something is a crime, but there’s no punishment for committing it, then it’s
not really a crime.
4 min.
That’s the
Talmud. When you come to the writers of
later exegesis, especially the Shulhan Aruch, by that point, he is already
saying that there are situations where you can kill a non-Jew with
impunity. Of course, it’s written in the
16th century, after the expulsion [of all Jews] from Spain [ in 1492
C.E.], so he has to write what he wants to say in coded language. So he calls
them “idolators”.
But just so
you know, there weren’t any [pagans] left in that part of the world [by that
point] – not in Europe and not in the Muslim world.
So he calls
them ‘idolaters”or other such terms, but everyone knows who he’s talking about
[non-jews]. The worst case, in my
opinion, is the case of Maimonides, who decrees – first of all, he decrees that it is permissible to have sexual intercourse
with a 3-year-old girl. That age of consent is
- problematic. And second of all, he decrees that if a Jew rapes a
three-year-old non-Jewish girl, then she must be executed.
5 min.
Her,
not him – because she tempted him to sin.
And for this reason, you have to treat her like an animal that puts
obstacles in a person’s way, and he quotes some verse about a bull or something like that. And the
rabbis know that these parts of the religion that are misanthropic, that are
discriminatory to non-jews – pose a problem for them. Because if they try to
implement them, there are some rules that are very unpleasant, like that
three-year-old girl we were just talking about – if they
try to implement them, there will be a pogrom.
So to avoid that situation, the Talmud defines two different states of reality. There
is one called “Darkei Shalom”[Peaceful
Ways]. In other words,
“This is the actual religious law, this is how you are supposed to act.” “However, since it
would cause a huge mess, and people will die, so due to ‘peaceful ways’, you
don’t act that way.
6 min.
Now,
until what point does the “peaceful ways” rule still apply ? Just as long as
the other situation does not exist, which is “When Israel is Mighty”. That’s when there is a Jewish regime. It is independent, and it is merciless,
it can do what it likes. Under those circumstances – it’s all over, you go back
to the letter of the law. No more “peaceful ways”, no more nothing.
Now, when you
think about Jewish history, lots of people talk about the Hasmonean Wars, which
was pretty much one of the only times that Jews wielded weapons, and they think
about what the Hasmoneans did to the Hellenized Jews [ who assimilated Greek
culture] . Which was to make them extinct, to destroy them. A small
genocide. And I remind people of this
frequently, every time Hanuhah rolls around.
But they did not stop there. They embarked on campaign of looting and
conquest, and at the beginning, during their first 20 years, wherever they arrived,
they would destroy the local temples.
7 min.
It was
prohibited for a place that was under
Jewish rule to have a pagan temple.
That’s what we are talking about. They also forced the Endomites to
convert top Judaism on pain of death. It was forced conversion. Something we learn the [Spanish] Inquisition did later
on. They took people and told
them””Either you are dead, or you‘re converting to Judaism”. And things only got worse from there. Now,
when religious Zionists look at reality, they say: “We’ve got a state. We’ve got weapons. We’ve
got a Jewish army. That hasn’t happened for 2000 years.” What this means is
that God wants us to bring about the Messiah, that God wants us to build the
temple.”
They skip
over all of the conditions that are imposed by the Talmud on what a Messiah
must be, and they go back to Maimonides.
8 min.
And Maimonides says “There is no difference
between our time and the time of the Messiah, other than the subordination of
kingdoms.” In other words, the only
difference between the time of Maimonides - he died in 1204- and the time of Messiah, is who is
subordinate to whom. Are the Jews subordinate to “kingdoms”, to other nations? Or can they subordinate other nations?
And that is
how Maimonides begins his Book of Kings.
He explains what the rules are for a king. What a king can do. It
emergers from the belief that, yes, there can be a king. You don’t have to first have a temple. You don’t need God to come down from the sky
and point at someone and say “That’s the Messiah”. You can have a king and if he is victorious,
then he’ll also be the Messiah. And then
you look at what religious Zionists are doing about this. They want a Messiah.
They want him now. ……
9 min.
There must be
cleanings. Religious law prohibits contact with non jews.
Of course, the Kosher
laws prohibit you from eating with them.
Other laws forbid you
from treating them fairly.
You are forbidden to return a lost item to
a non-Jew – except in order ‘to keep the peace’. There is no prohibition on stealing from a
non Jew- except in order ‘to keep the peace’.
You can’t say ‘hello’ to them- unless
there is no alternative. And so on and so forth.
There are all kinds of prohibitions that
are entirely psychotic, that are based on a religion of vengeance. Religious
Zionists have a serious problem with the fact that there are any non-Jews
here. The Land of Israel is supposed to be only
for Jews.
So,
ironically, they would manage to get along with the muslims, more or less, if we weren’t involved in a
military conflict with them. Because
according to Judaism, Muslims are no
idolators.
10 min.
Muslims
believe in one God. They don’t have
idols, they don’t have statues, they don’t have anything like that. So, ironically, during the Medieval Era,
Jews got along better with Muslims than with Christians. But what can you
do? We conquered a territory populated mainly by Muslims, and the Muslims are
fighting us – so those defenses fall away. And look, now they are starting to
talk about genocide. You
have the [ book] “Torat Hamelech” [King’s Torah] , which tells you that you can kill children if
there is a reason to believe that one day they could cause harm. Now, if you killed someone’s entire family and
left only him alive, he will indeed have a reason to cause harm. If you stole
his lands, turned him into a refugee, tossed him to Jordan or Lebanon – he will
indeed have reason to cause harm. Many people said that the book’s arguments
are not sound according to religious law, and so on and so forth – but no one
tackled it really head-on. And it’s no
wonder that it became a best seller.
11 min.
Because in
general, what religious Zionists actually want is for the Land of Israel to be
for Jews only. Now the situation for the
Christians, on the other hand, will be really bad. According to Judaism they
are idolators, and you have to kill them, even if they do not resist Jewish rule.
In Jerusalem,
religious seminary students have a despicable habit: they urinate or defecate
on churches. If you go there and talk to the church staff, you’ll hear it from
every church. Spitting on clergymen on the street is something that happens
regularly. If the priest has the gail to hit the person back, to slap him or
something similar, then he is deported, quietly. They cancel his residence
permit in the country. If you want to
justify a pogrom, all you have to do is say the words “missionary threat”. And
from that perspective, Christianity,
which is the historical arch-enemy of Judaism, is going to get a seriously
beating once the religious Zionists are in power. The Christian
Fundamentalists who send them money apparently don’t understand what they’re
dealing with.
But you know,
it’s really a case of “a pox (
the plague) on both your houses”.
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