Ik heb zelf blog 1207 en 1208 nu niet gelezen, maar in een ver verleden heb ik het boek wel gelzen inhet Engels. Nu is een redelijk leesbare vertaling in een handomdraai te maken, dus waarom niet.
Ook de comments zijn soms heel interessant en bieden nieuwe zaken die tot nu toe onbekend waren.
Jewish History, Jewish Religion: A Review
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Jewish History, Jewish Religion
Israel Shahak
Pluto Press, 1994
For a thorough airing of Jewish dirty laundry, one
cannot do much better than Israel Shahak’s Jewish History, Jewish
Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years (JHJR). First
published in 1994, JHJR, represents a humanist critique of
classical and modern Judaism which extends to the pervasive anti-gentile
attitudes of Jews throughout history. Much of Shahak’s critique leads to his
condemnation of Israel’s current treatment of the Palestinians, but he also
offers the gentile’s perspective whenever discussing historical conflicts
between Jews and gentiles. Most importantly, however, Shahak underscores the
blatant hypocrisy, the niggling legalism, and the chauvinistic ethnocentrism
behind classical Judaism, as expressed in the Talmud and other post-biblical writings.
While he focuses his ire on the fanatical rabbis—mostly in Israel—who still
adhere to these antiquated doctrines and exert influence in the Israeli
military, modern dissidents can implement Shahak’s historical and Talmudic
analysis whenever countering the historical complaints Jews continually levy
against gentiles, especially the white ones.
Shahak begins by demonstrating how the Jewish state of
Israel exists to serve the interests of Jews first and foremost. Jews are
protected and encouraged by the law in ways that non-Jews are not, especially
when it comes to residency and commercial discrimination. Shahak recognizes
that many of these discriminatory laws go unenforced in Israel, but they remain
on the books. And some are enforced, or at least were as of
the book’s publication. Shahak offers the example of Jews—but not
gentiles—being legally allowed to lease an orchard from a Jew for harvest. He
also describes the financial incentives Israel provides for its Jewish citizens
to return to Israel after they leave, while not making similar offers to its
non-Jewish citizens in similar circumstances. Further, Kibbutzes exclude Arabs
and require that all non-Jews convert before joining. Underlying these double
standards is what Shahak calls “the ideology of redeemed land.” Israeli land is
considered “redeemed” when it belongs or is sold to a Jew. The same land in
gentile hands would be considered “unredeemed.” The logical extension of this,
as Shahak points out, is the ultimate redemption of all Jewish land. As of the
1990s at least there was debate as to how far outside Israeli’s
current borders unredeemed Jewish land actually stretches.
Shahak connects this double standard to the closed
society many religiously zealous Jews want Israel to be. Despite having great
knowledge of Judaism, Shahak laments this, and wishes Israel be an open
society. But achieving this will require some painful decisions on the part of
Jewish Israelis. The following passage, I think, sums up his intentions
with JHJR:
A Jewish state, whether based on its present Jewish
ideology or, if it becomes even more Jewish in character than it is now, on the
principles of Jewish Orthodoxy, cannot even contain an open society. There are
two choices which face Israeli-Jewish society. It can become a fully closed and
warlike ghetto, a Jewish Sparta, supported by the labour of Arab helots, kept
in existence by its influence on the US political establishment and by threats
to use is nuclear power, or it can try to become an open society. The second choice
is dependent on a honest examination of its Jewish past, on the admission that
Jewish chauvinism and exclusivism exist, and on a honest examination of the
attitudes of Judaism towards non-Jews.
And if there are any positive attitudes towards
non-Jews in Judaism, Shahak studiously does not mention them.
One of Shahak’s main contentions regarding classical
Judaism is its totalitarian nature. He mentions how eighteenth-century Jews
burned books, persecuted dissidents, banned non-Jewish education, and were
absorbed in mysticism. Tolerance was not part of the equation, and Shahak quite
cheekily points out how at times even unfriendly gentile societies were kinder
to the Jews than the Jews were to themselves. He states bluntly that when Jews
were liberated or emancipated throughout the nineteenth century, they were in
many case freed from “the tyranny of their own religion” rather than from any
gentile oppression. He offers as an example the Metternich regime in Austria in
the 1840s, which actually enforced laws protecting Jews from being murdered.
Shahak makes a similar point regarding Tsar Nicholas I:
Nicholas I of Russia was a notorious anti-Semite and
issued many laws against the Jews of his state. But he also strengthened the
forces of ‘law and order’ in Russia—not only the secret police but also the
regular police and the gendarmerie—with the consequence that it became
difficult to murder Jews on the order of their rabbis, whereas in pre-1795
Poland it had been quite easy.
Shahak characterizes pre-emancipated Jewish societies
as “sunk in the most abject superstition, fanaticism and ignorance” and
describes how in the first Hebrew work on geography (published in 1803), the
authors complained about how a great many rabbis were still denying the
existence of America. He even cracks a joke about how these classical Jewish
societies prohibited the study of secular material—except while on the privy:
One can imagine that those few Jews of that time who –
no doubt tempted by Satan—developed an interest in the history of the French
kings were constantly complaining to their neighbours about the constipation
they were suffering from.
Shahak stresses how official Jewish histories of this
period which ignore or deny any of this “bear the unmistakable marks of their
origin: deception, apologetics or hostile polemics, indifference or even active
hostility to the pursuit of truth.” As evidence of this duplicity, Shahak
describes how before emancipation, rabbis continually subverted Christian
censorship whenever Christians became aware of virulently anti-gentile passages
in the Talmud and other writings. For example, terms such as “non-Jew” or
“gentile” would be replaced with seemingly less offensive terms such as
“idolator” or “Samaritan” which then served as euphemisms for the goyim. Shahak
calls these efforts “a calculated lie” since once the rabbis felt secure enough
in Israel centuries later, the original anti-gentile passages reappeared in
modern editions of their holy books.
And as for anti-gentile language, there is a lot of
it, and not just in the Talmud. The Hebrew word shaqetz refers
both to unclean animals and to gentile children. In a work known as The
Book of Knowledge, Jews are instructed to exterminate gentiles with their
own hands (a passage wholly expunged from the book’s English translations). In
the Hasidic text known as Hatanya, gentiles are considered Satanic
creatures. The Halakhah, which outlines the legal system of classical Judaism
and springs from the Babylonian Talmud, openly approves of war crimes (i.e.,
the killing of ostensibly good gentile civilians during war). In Maimonides’ Guide
to the Perplexed, Blacks and some other nomadic races are likened to “mute
animals” and “are not on the level of human beings.” (In the 1925 American
translation, editors obfuscated this embarrassing detail by replacing the
Hebrew word Kushim, meaning Blacks, with the nonsensical
“Kushites”). There is a morning prayer in which Jews thank God for not making
them gentiles. In another prayer, the worshipper declares, “and may the
apostates have no hope, and all the Christians perish instantly.” Devout Jews
are enjoined to utter a curse whenever passing a gentile cemetery or upon
seeing a large gentile population. The fourteenth-century work called The
Book of Education reinterprets seemingly universalist verbiage from
the Bible into chauvinistic, pro-Jewish exhortations. For example, according
to The Book of Knowledge, the verse “Thou shalt love thy fellow as
thyself,” really means “Thou shalt love thy fellow Jew as
thyself.” Finally, according to the Talmudic Encyclopedia, the
intricacy of the law regarding adultery with gentile women reveals that, to
devout Jews, all gentile women, even the ones who convert to Judaism, are
presumed to be whores.
Keep in mind that while devout Jews were praying for
the death of gentiles and while Jewish leaders were fully aware of the
hidebound aspects of their own religion, they pressured the Catholic Church
during the mid-20th century to remove the line about God forgiving Jews in one
its Good Friday prayers; because, of course, to say such a thing would be anti-Semitic.
Perhaps the most astonishing aspect of JHJR is
how petty and legalistic Shahak reveals Judaism to be. It seems that Judaism,
as interpreted and re-interpreted over the centuries in the Talmud and other
texts—down to the most trivial details—has provided the evolutionary bottleneck
through which the Jews have become the world’s heavyweight champions of
lawyers. In some cases, it’s as if God laid down the law in the Torah, and it’s
up to His chosen people to find ingenious loopholes around these very laws—as
if the All-Powerful Creator of the Universe were too obtuse to notice.
On the proscription against milking cows on the
Sabbath, Shahak writes—hilariously—that according to Zionist rabbis:
the forbidden milking becomes permitted provided the
milk is not white but dyed blue. This blue Saturday milk is then used
exclusively for making cheese, and the dye is washed off into the whey.
Non-Zionist rabbis have devised a much subtler scheme (which I personally
witnessed operating in a religious kibbutz in 1952). They discovered an old
provision which allows the udders of a cow to be emptied on the Sabbath, purely
for relieving the suffering caused to the animal by bloated udders, and on the
strict condition that the milk runs to waste on the ground. Now, this is what
is actually done: on Saturday morning, a pious kibbutznik goes to the cowshed
and places pails under the cows. (There is no ban on such work in the whole of
the Talmudic literature.) He then goes to the synagogue to pray. Then comes his
colleague, whose ‘honest intention’ is to relieve the animal’s pain and let
their milk run to the floor. But if, by chance, a pail happens to be standing
there, is he under any obligation to remove it? Of course not. He simply
‘ignores’ the pails, fulfills his mission of mercy and goes to the synagogue.
Finally a third pious colleague goes into the cowshed and discovers, to his
great surprise, the pails full of milk. So he puts them in cold storage and
follows his comrades to the synagogue. Now all is well, and there is no need to
waste money on blue dye.
This is funny. But when rules are laid down and then
interpreted to not only benefit Jews but also to necessarily harm
gentiles, it’s not funny. In Chapter Five, “The Laws Against Non-Jews,”
Israel Shahak wrote it all down.
According to Maimonides’ Mishneh Torah,
the Talmudic Encyclopedia, and R. Yo’el Sirkis’ Bayit
Hadash, Jew-on-Jew murder is a capital sin, but Jew-on-gentile murder is
not, and is therefore not punishable by any Jewish court. R. David Halevi declares
in his seventeenth-century text Turey Zahav which comments on
the Shulhan ‘Arukh that a Jew must not directly harm a
gentile, but he allows for indirect harm of gentiles. Maimonides himself
proscribes Jewish doctors treating gentiles. Basically, a gentile life must not
be saved. For example, a Jew would not be allowed to shove a gentile down a
crevice, but if the gentile is already in the crevice, the Jew is under no
obligation to pull him out. Indeed, if there is a ladder which could facilitate
the gentile’s rescue, the Jew may also remove the ladder.
Unless, of course, such indirect harm would then bring
hostility upon the Jews as a whole. Then, and only then, would a Jew not be
permitted to indirectly harm a gentile. This, I call “the hostility exception,”
and Shahak brings it up a lot. Jews respect power, and this power more than any
universal set of values informs their jurisprudence. When gentiles (or heretic
Jews) are weak, they are afforded no mercy in the law. However, when gentiles
are strong, then Jews are required to do the very minimum to not increase their
hostility. One crass and recurring example of this was how Jewish doctors would
be encouraged to treat wealthy gentiles, including kings,
nobles, lords, and the like. But poor gentiles, never. Obviously, such
self-serving codification defies any absolute sense of Right and Wrong—moral
particularlism at its most egregious, and is one of the aspects of classical
Judaism that Shahak finds so offensive.
This next one might be the worst of them all.
According to the virulently anti-gentilic Maimonides in his “Prohibitions on
Sexual Intercourse” (emphasis mine):
If a Jew has coitus with a Gentile woman, whether
she be a child of three or an adult, whether married or unmarried,
and even if she is a minor aged only nine years and one day—because
he had willful coitus with her, she must be killed, as is the case with a
beast, because through her a Jew got in trouble.
Get that? According to one of greatest Jewish scholars
of all time, a Jew has license to murder, rape, and molest children as long as
the victim is a gentile. And of course, the sanctity of gentile marriages
amounts to nothing.
Here are a few more anti-gentilic laws, all of which
adhere to the “hostility exception” described above:
1.
Gentiles are forbidden to bear testimony
in rabbinical courts, since all gentiles are presumed liars.
2.
Jews must not offer gifts to gentiles.
3.
Jews must exact interest when lending
money to gentiles.
4.
Jews must never return items lost by a
gentile.
5.
Jews shall not deceive other Jews in
business, but may practice “indirect deception” when doing business with a
gentile.
6.
Jews shall not steal without violence
from anyone, gentiles included. However, there are certain circumstances under
which they may steal with violence from
gentiles under their control.
7.
Jews are forbidden to sell unmovable
property (i.e., structure and land) to gentiles in Israel.
Towards the end of JHJR, Shahak bluntly
states something that most counter-Semites know as fact:
It must be emphasized that the explanations quoted
above do represent correctly the teaching of the Halakhah. The rabbis and, even
worse, the apologetic ‘scholars of Judaism’ know this very well and for this
reason they do not try to argue against such views inside the Jewish community;
and of course they never mention them outside it. Instead, they vilify any Jew
who raises these matters within earshot of Gentiles, and they issue deceitful
denials in which the art of equivocation reaches its summit.
Shahak states further that Judaism is imbued with both
hatred and ignorance of Christianity, and that this is largely independent of
any Christian persecution of the Jews. Thus, he often takes the gentile
perspective when reviewing Jewish history in JHJR. He makes it
clear that even the poorest Jews were better off than serfs. He also points out
that Jews, as agents of kings or nobility, often exploited the peasantry,
especially in Poland. He doesn’t deny that European peasants triggered
anti-Jewish uprisings throughout history, but he also lists historical peasant
uprisings that had nothing to do with Jews. Clearly then, what Jews call
“anti-Semitism” is not inherent to European peasants. Shahak says the quiet
part out loud when concluding that Jewish influence declines when gentile nations
assume a more nationalistic (read: ethno-nationalistic) attitude and have a
greater political connection between the rulers and the people—what it now
termed populism in American political culture. There is a long history going
back at least to the 1930s of Jewish anti-populist writing (Chapter 5 of The
Culture of Critique)—writing that eventually penetrated American academic
and media culture with the rise of Jewish power.
Most damningly, Shahak states:
Before the advent of the modern state the position of
the Jews was socially most important, and their internal autonomy greatest,
under a regime which was completely retarded to the point of utter degeneracy.
In other words, Jews readily made alliances with
oppressive, degenerate non-Jewish elites and participated with these elites in
exploiting the non-Jewish population.
Certainly, viewing the Jewish Question through the
lens Israel Shahak provides us in JHJR makes things much
clearer. He provides cogent reasons why gentiles oppressed
Jews in the past or evicted them from their nations. Still, we should remember
that Shahak was no fellow traveler of the Dissident Right. Like any good
liberal humanist, he opposed all race-based policies, laws,
and nations. He opposed ethno-nationalism in toto and often
chided Jews (for example, Rabbi
Schneurssohn of New York city) for having anti-Black
attitudes—the same anti-Black attitudes that many race-realist White dissidents
have today. White people founding pro-White nations would have been just as
odious to him as the Zionists who had founded Israel. Most questionably, Shahak
on multiple occasions in JHJR expresses a high regard for the
ideas behind the French Revolution without mentioning any of its concurrent
chaos and atrocities. This should give a clear indication of where he stands as
a pollical thinker.
Most importantly, we should keep in mind that Jewish
History, Jewish Religion does not condemn modern Jews for the overt
racism of their classical religion (excluding those instances when classical
Judaism informs their treatment of the Palestinians). Nor should it—since no
people is without historical sin. However, the best take from this important
and fascinating book is the underscoring of the present sin
being committed by most Jews today; that is, blaming gentiles, especially the
white ones, for bad things in their past, while astutely ignoring similar bad
things in the Jewish past.
A critical mass of Jews who stop doing this will do
much to lift the burden of three thousand years.
(Republished from The Occidental Observer by
permission of author or representative)
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1. Priss Factor says: • Website
Cuckeroo Pompeo
What about plotting
against assange and sucking off defense contractors?
Those should at least be priorities 2 and 3 https://t.co/9Ql2evFxK7
— Darren J. Beattie (@DarrenJBeattie) January 5, 2022
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2. anyone with a brain says:
January 6, 2022 at 5:59 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago • 100
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Ethno-nationalism will not solve the Jewish question.
Socialism and state atheism will.
Any other course of action will permit the existence of large private wealth
and that of course will attract the Jews, furthermore Abrahamic religions in
order to exist must tolerate Judaism, but not necessarily Judaism tolerate nor
respect its religious sects(Christianity and Islam).
It may be possible to not be a socialist state that is hostile to Jews, but the
elites and people would have to be anti-abrahamic with no respect for the texts
or god of the Jews.
Israel Shahak is a great person for what he has
written as is Gilad Atzmon, Shahak’s book with Norton Mezvinsky Jewish Fundamentalism in Israel is also good.
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3. Wyatt says:
January 6, 2022 at 9:30 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago • 100
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A pack of dirty sand people wormed their way into
Europe, got a hold of actual good genes, but are inbred as fuck and now their
inbreeding-induced paranoia and schizophrenia are the guideposts of western
foreign policy because they feel threatened by anyone they don’t outright
control.
I don’t think I missed much.
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4. Polistra says:
In one short book, Israel Shahak taught me more useful
information about the Ruling Tribe than I ever learned in a lifetime of being
saturated by their endless and ubiquitous mass-media propaganda. Not to mention
that what Israel Shahak shared is actually accurate.
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5. Priss Factor says: • Website
On the proscription against milking cows on the
Sabbath, Shahak writes—hilariously—that according to Zionist rabbis
It not only explains why Jews became good at law but
at comedy.
Some of this stuff is totally hilarious.
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6. Zachary Smith says:
January 7, 2022 at 5:36 am GMT • 16.4 hours ago • 100
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https://mediateca.directory/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Shahak-Jewish-History-Jewish-Religion-2.pdf
Sometime in the late 1950s, that world-class gossip
and occasional historian, John F. Kennedy, told me how, in 1948, Harry S.
Truman had been pretty much abandoned by everyone when he came to run for
president. Then an American Zionist brought him two million dollars in cash, in
a suitcase, aboard his whistle-stop campaign train. ‘That’s why our recognition
of Israel was rushed through so fast.’ As neither Jack nor I was an antisemite
(unlike his father and my grandfather) we took this to be just another funny
story about Truman and the serene corruption of American politics.
From the first edition Gore Vidal preface.
7. Franz says:
Ethno-nationalism will not solve the Jewish question.
It’s the only thing that ever has.
There is no great feat to mix ethno-nationalism with
socialism. It’s been done.
But I agree with you that prying the European soul
from an Asiatic volcano god would do more than any political system. Likely
it’s the only way any European political system can work.
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8. Altai says:
January 7, 2022 at 7:47 am GMT • 14.2 hours ago • 800
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Shahak connects this double standard to the closed
society many religiously zealous Jews want Israel to be. Despite having great
knowledge of Judaism, Shahak laments this, and wishes Israel be an open
society. But achieving this will require some painful decisions on the part of
Jewish Israelis.
One can see the conflicting context of diaspora Jew
(Shahak being born in Poland) who internalises an ‘open society’ as something
to instinctually press for and encountering a different context in the
ethnostate. He uses absurd absolutist visions to depict this ‘fortress Israel’
despite achieving this objective requiring a few simple laws (It would not come
to require an authoritarian regime that might threaten Israeli Jews anymore
than it would harm native gentiles in their societies but he pretends otherwise
because he knows this) just like he was inclined to use histrionic language
against the host population in Poland and greater Christendom.
Shahak wants Israel to remain a Jewish state but
having grown up internalising as pure morality the idea of an ‘open society’
among his former host nation, it’d salve his moral and political aesthetics if
it could be achieved with an open society. IE, if other demographics could
theoretically come and go as they please but don’t.
A very similar situation is seen in the older Jewish
head of the ACLU, Ira Glasser bemoaning the way the new ACLU is so severely
politically biased and comfortable in banning books and blocking speech or
directly endorsing specific politicians.
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/the-disintegration-of-the-aclu-james-kirchick
Glasser and his friends rarely encountered anybody who
wasn’t Jewish, much less Black, within the 12-block neighborhood of East
Flatbush that comprised the world of their childhood (New York City, he says in the film, was less the
fabled “melting pot” of popular American sentiment than “a collection of
insular segregated tribes”).
…
No American minority had reaped more from
its faith in the country’s professed commitment to pluralism and tolerance than
the Jews, a gift they repaid many times over by supporting the institutions—the
universities, the Democratic Party, the ACLU—which upheld them. In the same way Lenny Bruce classified Ray
Charles and fruit salad as Jewish (while claiming that “Evaporated milk is
goyish even if the Jews invented it”), so the ACLU was seen as scrappy,
authentic, and emblematic of an underdog quality. As Bruce might have put it: the ACLU, Jewish; the
McCarthyite American Jewish League Against Communism, goyish.
…
Not that they ever pulled punches. Debating the
constitutionality of flag burning on Firing Line, Buckley told Glasser
something to the effect that the “average
American” has a visceral reaction to the
desecration of the Stars and Stripes
Though he fully agrees with the politics and views of
the new ACLU he still feels like what it is doing is wrong despite the current
political orthodoxy being ascendant being what he was working towards all those
decades previously. He even admits this, that his motivation was ethnic. Back
then speech they liked benefited from unrestricted freedom of speech. (And if
their point was mad all the clearer by defending a KKK march so be it, they
knew the KKK wasn’t making a comeback) Today speech they don’t like is the kind
which benefits from unrestricted freedom of speech and the who/whom underneath
shows it’s true nature as they become advocates for speech and knowledge
restriction.
But to Glasser we see he has internalised the moral
superiority of ‘freedom of speech’ and so is incapable of truly letting it go
or understanding this new context or his true motivations. He was never a
supporting of freedom of speech anymore than Shahak was of an ‘open society’.
Or perhaps more interestingly, both Glasser and Shahak
fear that this period of Jewish ascendancy is not on solid ground, the history
of the Jews was never one of permanent ascendancy anywhere. Perhaps they fear
pulling the sinews back too far, lest the arrow be pointed in their face next
time. Shahak probably fears Israel’s floating of all Western morality, a
morality which treats racism as the greatest sin chiefly authored by diaspora
Jews, will make Israel’s fall from untouchable status that much harder when it
comes. Better to have a country with lots of Jews among others (Or the
potential for that to end up happening) than perhaps to lose it all. See also
Bari Weiss giving up a very nice job at the NYT to protest wokeness despite
being a liberal lesbian Jew but a turbo Zionist liberal lesbian Jew. This
context, of course, was not reported, making the whole incident a very subtle
insider signal.
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9. Dumbo says:
January 7, 2022 at 8:15 am GMT • 13.7 hours ago • 100
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Socialism and state atheism will.
LOL. Yeah, just like they did in the Soviet Union,
right?
furthermore Abrahamic religions in order to exist must
tolerate Judaism,
The only reason why Jews were excluded in ghettos (and
in many cases expelled) from European countries from centuries was because of
traditional Christianity (Catholic) being very wary of them. They returned with
a vengeance with increased secularism.
Most Jews are atheists, by the way. Despite their
weird traditional religion that only the Haredim follow.
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10. Anon[233] • Disclaimer says:
January 7, 2022 at 8:18 am GMT • 13.7 hours ago • 100
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Not that I am siding with the Jews but doesn’t
everyone do this to some extent? The Indian(of india) ethnnocentrism shown by
every state and culture there makes the Jews look like the greatest individualist
and to some extent so do the Chinese of China. The reason the Jews act this way
is because they were always discriminated and just adopted this method far
earlier in time. Everyone will act this way with the history they’ve had
combined with the progression of time and society.
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11. milosevic says:
Israel Shahak — Jewish
History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years
https://archive.org/details/11ShahakJewishHistoryJewishReligion/
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12. Justrambling says:
January 7, 2022 at 9:41 am GMT • 12.3 hours ago • 200
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With my scanty knowledge of Jewish history, I am in no
position to challenge Quinn’s take on Shahak’s JHJR.
The piece is so replete with scriptural quotes, of which I have been equally
ignorant. Still, the information provided is at once instructive and revealing,
on the evolution of Jewish scriptures and their massaging through the ages to
sanitize them of their evil content. Scriptures are being doctored, not to
present a more humane Jewishness but to ameliorate the intrinsic evil that has
informed the devout followers of Judaism over millennia and still does – behind
the scenes.
The extreme Jewish venom that Quinn shows must make
the Muslim Koran seem like a children’s story book. One is left wondering about
the evil of the American and European Christian goyim with the reins of power
to be so easily taken in by the layers of lies fed them over a century or so
(or more?). It simply beggars belief.
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13. JessicaR says:
January 7, 2022 at 9:55 am GMT • 12.1 hours ago • 100
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Of course, Shahak is right that such anti-Gentile
provisions exist in Judaism. But as Baruch Kimmerling pointed out in his review
of Shahak’s book, the proviso in Jewish law that one can be kind to non-Jews to
avoid “hurt feelings” in fact offered a legal loophole to Jews who were
predisposed to treat non-Jews well.
There are also modern groups of observant Jews like
“Rabbis for Human Rights” that completely reject the kind of discrimination
discussed in Shahak’s book.
The take-home message: Judaism is a large system with
varying views, even among the Orthodox. While the existence of what the author
describes should not be denied, one should also recognize the many
interpretations of Judaism–even within Orthodoxy–that do not adhere to these
racist formulations.
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According to one of the most outstanding Jewish
scholars, a Jew has a license to murder, rape, and molest children as long as
the victim is a gentile, writes Spencer J. Quincy, reviewing Israel Shahak’s
book “Jewish History, Jewish Religion. The Weight of Three Thousand Years.”
Could that explain Jeffrey Epstein’s perversities mistreating under-aged girls
and his mistress Ghislaine Maxwell’s helping hand in it because of their
Jewishness? All jokes aside!
Israel Shahak’s writings are more important than the
iniquities of these two Jewish sex offenders. “Open Secrets” explains Israel’s
obsession with Iran, which challenges the Zionist’s quest for hegemony from
Morocco to Iran. https://between-the-lines-ludwig-watzal.blogspot.com/2010/05/open-secrets-israel-shahak-revisited.html “Jewish
Fundamentalism in Israel,” co-authored by Nerton Mezvinsky, shows how orthodox
greed creeps into all walks of Israel society. http://www.watzal.com/Jewish_Fundamentalism_in_Israel.pdf
Israel Shahak was an outstanding scholar and an
incorruptible personality.
Another renowned author is Professor Yakov M. Rabkin,
who brought up a painful subject in his groundbreaking book “What is Modern
Israel?” UNZ review should review also Shahak’s other books.
Below are more links to promote a better understanding
of Shahak’s thinking.
https://between-the-lines-ludwig-watzal.blogspot.com/2010/07/in-memoriam-israel-shahak.html
http://www.watzal.com/Gedanken_ueber_Israel.pdf
https://taz.de/!1477487/
http://www.watzal.com/Israel_Entzionisierung.pdf
https://between-the-lines-ludwig-watzal.blogspot.com/2010/08/israels-zukunft-entzionisierung-und-die.html
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15. El Dato says:
Pompeo should be aerodropped into an arena of starved
ISIS fanatics.
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16. El Dato says:
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Ouch time:
Aussie man banned from
leaving Israel until year 9999
An Australian father says he’s forbidden from leaving
Israel for any reason until December 31, 9999 unless he pays his Israeli
ex-wife $2.4 million in future child support under a local divorce
law.
Huppert told News.com.au
that he’s been effectively “locked” in Israel since 2013, a year after he
arrived in the Jewish state to reconnect with the two children he had with his
former wife – an Israeli citizen. The kids were three months and five years old
at the time.
Shortly after Huppert moved to Israel, the woman
brought a case against him at a local religious court, which oversees issues
such as marriage, divorce, child custody and child support payments. Ruling on
the basis of Israeli divorce law, the court banned the Australian from leaving
the country until he pays out a “future debt” in alimony payments for the
entire duration of his two kids’ childhood.
Under the so-called “stay-of-exit order,” the man was
ordered to pay 5,000 Israeli shekels (around $1,600) per month in
child support for each of his children until they turn 18.
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17. Proud_Srbin says:
Rabi Manis Friedman has turned my (FAKE/BIZARRE)
opinion about Hebrew and Judaism 180 degrees, making it crystal CLEAR to
ME(Human), disconnect of Zionism from Judaism.
https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/392729/jewish/About-Rabbi-Friedman.htm
His videos(YT) are mind openers.
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18. EuroNat says:
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Not that I am siding with the Jews but doesn’t
everyone do this to some extent?
This is pure sophistry, yes you are shilling for Judea
clearly. Good shilling, when the reason of antisemitism is clearly exposed (a
mostly legitimate host reaction to a hostile culture based on Judaism, a
chauvinistic antigentile and anti Christian religion) and the sources cannot be
dismissed as antisemitic the spin of the PR experts and useful idiots is “but
everyone does it to some extent!”
A bunch of American whites also assault, rob, kill and
rape to some extent, yet blacks do it disproportionately.
Could this be the reason why people here complain
often about blacks? understand now how moronic your sorry excuse of an apology
is?
Classic “nothing to see here” defense. It is all
relative, 2 Jews 3 opinions, there are bad apples in every bunch yada yada
yada.
Everyone does it but few complain against the Hindu
and Chinese stranglehold on the USG.
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19. anyone with a brain says:
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LOL. Yeah, just like they did in the Soviet Union,
right?
Yes, the USSR had quotas on Jews in academia, and
there was a large Jewish dissident movement trying to flee to Israel due to
anti-semitism. After the fall of the USSR the Jewish oligarchs/vultures came in
and dispossessed the people, Putin is way more friendly to Israel and Jewish
power than any USSR leader. Compare Ukrainian SSR with Ukraine of today that
has a Jewish media personality as president and a Jewish oligarch patron.
Socialism and state atheism is the only solution.
The only reason why Jews were excluded in ghettos (and
in many cases expelled) from European countries from centuries was because of
traditional Christianity (Catholic) being very wary of them.
Lies, had you read Shahak’s book you would know Jews
were self-ghettoizing people, with accounts of ancient Romans complaining how
Jews wouldn’t even eat with non-Jews.
By choosing to adopt semitic religion, you reject the
true European(what Gilad Atzmon calls ‘Athenian’) way of critical thought and
science. Jews believe what they believe because their religious leaders tells
them to. Reject semitic ways of thought and believe what you believe because of
first hand experience and reason.
No true European minded man can believe in semitic religions.
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20. HT says:
Because of their intelligence, they are clearly the
most deadly form of parasite to a society. They have literally sucked the blood
and the culture out of America and replaced it with the sewage they profit
from.
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21. anyone with a brain says:
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but doesn’t everyone do this to some extent?
No, they are noble high minded people out there. And
nepotism and such is terrible. It is even worse when ethnocentrist practice
ethnocentrism while exhorting everyone else not to, and chastising people who
aren’t.
A noble high-minded (but plagued with guilt and
semitic religious nonsense that promotes guilt on the innocent, such as
original sin, you don’t have to be a Christian believer to still have the
Christian guilt complex in which the victims are pure saints while everyone is
guilty of ‘original sin’) people are being taken advantage by ethnocentric
chauvinist.
The atheist Soviets(and pre-1920’s American elites)
had no qualms about putting quotas on Jewish admissions to elite universities
and degree programs, and especially sensitive state secrets related positions.
Some may find that abhorrent, but being denied those jobs and opportunities is
not a violation of human rights, those Jews could find work in other fields, it
is a much better alternative than doing nothing and then Jewish power developing
to such a point that there will be backlash leading to concentration camps.
here is an interesting anecdote on why Jews were kept
from diplomatic positions in the USSR
22. Kolya Krassotkin says:
Wrt to dropping Pompeo into an area of starved ISIS
fanatics, it should have been done before he lost all that weight.
Dude had begun to look like he was trying to beat
Chris Christie in The US’s Fattest Republican Contest.
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23. Happy Tapir says:
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I read this book a while back and found it very
interesting. I like it’s literary and philosophical explication. For example at
one point Shahak asks, how is it that Judaism is so racist when the Old
Testament is so humanistic in its message? He answers rhetorically that
rabbinical Judaism is not in fact based on the Old Testament but rather the
Talmud, which was written during the Greek occupation and is influenced by
Plato’s Republic which idealizes Sparta as the perfect state, with all other
groups as helots serving the better of Sparta. Shahak also quotes Asimov and
discusses literary.
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24. Jon Chance says: • Website
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What’s the difference between Judaism and any other
mental illness?
Under the worst circumstances, perhaps even the best
men and women behave like Jews.
The most practical and humane solution to Judaism is
probably to neuter everyone who consistently behaves like a Jew and deport them
to Birobidzhan.
If someone establishes a 501(c)3 nonprofit
organization called United Against Judaism, will the IRS respect its tax-exempt status?
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25. Bardon Kaldian says:
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Shahak is generally correct, but he exposes Jewish
shadow, in Jungian parlance- not the entire edifice of Judaism.
My chief objection to Judaist religious culture is
that is is, basically- boring. This is a religion without afterlife, I mean
normative Judaism, not various heretics. And this is boring & dull.
For anyone who wants a deeper analysis of historical
Judaism & its antagonistic nature, I’d recommend Laqueur and Lindemann.
26. annamaria says:Next New Comment
Treason. They are gleefully committing treason for
getting personal comforts.
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27. Iva says:Next New Comment
The problem with Jews is that they are much more
anti-gentile , and this is normal and justified to them , then gentile are
anti-semites. However, they constantly screaming about antisemitism.
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28. annamaria says:Next New Comment
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“they were always discriminated…”
— Is this why “they” have comprised a law demanding to kill a raped child?
What other religions are so viciously subhuman in
their relations to the host nations? How many nations had it enough –
109? http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/expelled.htm
https://enigmachannel.wordpress.com/2015/06/10/the-worlds-most-evil-woman/
The problem was, and is, that “they” have been always
barbaric. The whole Jewish civilization is condensed into the codex of hate and
arrogance. This is an internal problem. Don’t even try to put the blame on
others, whether the people in the Middle East, Central Asia, Europe, or the US.
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29. Jon Chance says: • WebsiteNext New Comment
Thank you for providing yet more examples of the most
extreme and obvious Jewish hatred of Gentiles.
But Jewish hatred of Gentiles is only one example of
the numerous fundamental problems with Judaism.
Extreme Judaism is less dangerous than moderate Judaism
because extremities are easier to identify and isolate.
When Judaism morphs into “secular” ideologies such as
socialism, it becomes far more dangerous than a handful of blatant religious
fanatics residing in ghettos.
Why do the academic resources you’re recommending
confuse the issues with misleading commentary about “Judeo-Christian” ethics,
false assumptions about “The Holocaust”, and fraudulent terminology such as
“antisemitism”?
The most damaging aspect of Judaism and other
ideologies derived from “The Old Testament” is not the Terrorist Theocracy of
Israel, but the way British Jews have hijacked the English language and
dumbed-down the world with their fraudulent terminology based on fake
“history”.
Neither the Jewish problem nor any other serious issue
of public policy can be meaningfully addressed without fully exposing the Holy
Hoax and other foundational myths perpetuated by Jews and their useful idiots.
Perhaps the most relevant work on this subject
is 1984 by
George Orwell.
What’s the difference between Judaism and Oligarchical
Collectivism?
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30. conatus says:Next New Comment
January 7, 2022 at 4:55 pm GMT • 5.1 hours ago • 200
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Almost nine years ago a commenter on another cite ,
Astraea Shaw said this:
“Imagine being born from a tense aggressive woman and
then, throughout your childhood being kept tense and nervous and aggressive
yourself because you are told a hundred times a day that the whole World hates
you – that is, all of the rest of Humanity hates you, roughly seven or eight
billion Human Beings hate you1 First of all with the hormones which cause
aggressive behavior flooding you in utero and then the brainwashing, what
chance do you have to be a normal human person? Not much. You are sick. On top
of all that you are told that you are superior. How confusing! Then you
understand that normal human beings are just cattle actually, and that they are
created entirely for your use and they have no other purpose1 Obviously you are
very sick indeed. Compassion is bred out of you and you have no conscience nor
any shame. You cover the actual feelings of inferiority by being arrogant and
you have no capacity or the ability to REASON. How can you? You are living in a
World of Human Beings – so many of them, and you are not allowed to like them
even. You are basically psychopathic or sociopathic. How could you be anything
else. Dignity and honour are completely outside of the experience of these
benighted people.”
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31. annamaria says:Next New Comment
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Yet you teach your children the virtue of mass murder
of non-Jews.
Every year the barbaric stories of Purim, complete with cookies in the form of
a human ear, are celebrated in the kindergartens, schools, and homes of the
allegedly “moral” and “most victimized” followers of Judaic traditions.
Literally translated as “Haman’s ears” … the pastries
celebrate the cutting off of the wicked man’s ears before he was hanged.
The “wicked man” was Persian, and the murderers were
Jews weaseled into his native Persia. Disgusting.
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32. Desert Fox says:Next New Comment
Recommend this book, The Controversy of Zion by
Douglas Reed, it can be had on amazon and also recommend googling and reading
the Protocols of Zion.
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33. Rev. Spooner says:Next New Comment
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The second choice is dependent on a honest
examination of its Jewish past, on the admission that Jewish chauvinism and
exclusivism exist, and on a honest examination of the attitudes of Judaism towards
non-Jews.
Now that’s a known to all.
What has rung a bell for me is radical Sunni Islam, more the Saudi version.
They have the same hatred of the other, and call for who should be killed.
But there’s a difference. The murderous impulse that’s evident in Wahabbism
will die out shortly with the demise of the Saudis. And that’s a given.
The Jews meanwhile will carry on a more subtle monetary warfare that’s beyond
most people’s comprehension.
I think they have won in the West as well as in India, Australia and New
Zealand.
China will be tough for them.
To infiltrate China they have some chinese looking so called “lost tribe” from
north east that they have imported from india.
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34. Sick of Orcs says:Next New Comment
With apologies to G. Carlin.
It’s a BIG club, goyim, and you ain’t in it.
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For example at one point Shahak asks, how is it that
Judaism is so racist when the Old Testament is so humanistic in its message?
I think you’ve remembered wrong, if I’m wrong I’d like to see the quote. The Torah, or Old Testament, makes the Talmud look tame and humoristic by comparison, it is matter-of-factly genocidal and blood-thirsty throughout, as the book ‘God, the Most Unpleasant Character in All Fiction’ points out … some highlights are given here
While Shahak’s book is revelatory, the bad news is that Shahak was a full
supporter of the holohoax.
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36. RockaBoatus says:Next New Comment
“No true European minded man can believe in semitic
religions” – Oh yeah, for sure. Yep, all those Europeans throughout the
centuries who adhered to Christianity were not “true European minded” people.
Thanks for clarifying the matter.
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37. job says:Next New Comment
but where is Gilad Atzmon?
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38. Mevashir says:Next New Comment
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Yet you teach your children the virtue of mass murder
of non-Jews.
Every year the barbaric stories of Purim, complete with cookies in the form of
a human ear, are celebrated in the kindergartens, schools, and homes of the
allegedly “moral” and “most victimized” followers of Judaic traditions.
Literally translated as “Haman’s ears” … the pastries
celebrate the cutting off of the wicked man’s ears before he was hanged.
The “wicked man” was Persian, and the murderers were
Jews weaseled into his native Persia. Disgusting.
Your comment is one big lie after another:
1. The
Jews were in Persia courtesy of the Babylonian conquest and destruction of
their homeland, and their subsequent captivity, not due to being “weaseled”
anywhere.
2. The
war depicted in the Book of Esther was a war of self-defense against a
genocidal plan hatched by the Persian Prime Minister with the unwitting
complicity of the Emperor. The Jews were exercising their 2nd amendment rights.
They didn’t attack you so why are you so offended?
3. The
key to the story is that the Emperor could not rescind an earlier decree, in
this cause permitting the genocide. All he could do was to authorize the Jews
to defend themselves, thus setting the stage for a winner take all battle that
the Jews won.
4. An
excellent movie about this story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4saPofrlbA
Gary Demar is a bible teacher who argues that the war
of Gog and Magog prophesied in the Book of Ezekiel actually took place in the
Book of Esther during the struggle between the Jews of Persia and the followers
of Haman. It’s a most ingenious idea that negates the worst forms of
contemporary Christian-Zionist apocalypticism:
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January 7, 2022 at 7:13 pm GMT • 2.8 hours ago • 100
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Damn, meant to hit agree instead of disagree to your
post. I couldn’t agree more with your post.
Jews, along with their pet negroes are the most hateful
and racist people on the planet. Of course the Jew is the heavyweight champion
when it comes to hate and racism, the Jew has no equal when it comes to hate,
racism, and crimes against humanity. For the most part it appears the so called
religion of Judaism is nothing more than a farce.
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40. Happy Tapir says:Next New Comment
I thought that myself actually. But I’m pretty sure
that’s what Shahak wrote. Maybe you could say relatively humanistic compared to
the Talmud. The Hebrew prophets are very universal in their message.
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41. Mefobills says:Next New Comment
January 7, 2022 at 7:27 pm GMT • 2.5 hours ago • 200
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Sociopaths are made:
You are living in a World of Human Beings – so many of
them, and you are not allowed to like them even. You are basically psychopathic
or sociopathic. How could you be anything else. Dignity and honour are completely outside of the
experience of these benighted people.”
Sociopath:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/sociopathy
Sociopathy refers to a pattern of antisocial behaviors
and attitudes, including manipulation, deceit, aggression, and a lack of
empathy for others. Sociopathy is a non-diagnostic term, and it is not
synonymous with “psychopathy,” though the overlap leads to frequent confusion.
Sociopaths may or may not break the law, but by exploiting and manipulating
others, they violate the trust that the human enterprise runs on.
Being fed Jewish narrative from birth creates
sociopaths. Freedom of religion was a profound mistake by the founders. Maybe
they thought the cults could not withstand first amendment scrutiny?
All religions can be analyzed for trigger words and
sociopathic conditioning.
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42. Chris Moore says: • WebsiteNext New Comment
Ethno-nationalism will not solve the Jewish question.
Socialism and state atheism will. Any other course of action will permit the
existence of large private wealth and that of course will attract the Jews,
furthermore Abrahamic religions in order to exist must tolerate Judaism, but
not necessarily Judaism tolerate nor respect its religious sects(Christianity
and Islam).
You Marxist-Zionists are hilarious. Christianity
solved the “Jewish question” for 2000 years, including the Zionist slave trade
problem in the US. It’s only when you Marxist-Zionists fully infiltrated
America and started World Wars that the Jewish question came up again. (In the
US, it really should have come up again after the Civil War, which would have
spared Western Civ WW1 and WW2, and might have if Lincoln wasn’t shot by a
deranged, mentally ill, pro-slavery thespian who loved the Hebrew Bible.)
What you Marxist-Zionists call “anti-Semitic
Christianity” solved it once, and it will again.
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43. anon[376] • Disclaimer says:Next New Comment
January 7, 2022 at 8:23 pm GMT • 1.6 hours ago • 100
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Shahak is full of shit and i’m a nazi.
1. all jews were orthodox until 1800.
2. orthodox judaism is most akin to john calvin’s
geneva “precisianism”.
it’s like if obsessive compulsive disorder was a religion.
3. the jealous God became the christian and muslim
God, and thus judaism has become more a family than a religion as some haredi
jews say themselves. and “judaizers” were still a thing in the dark ages.
recall: Woe
unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to
make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of
hell than yourselves.
judaism went from universal in the time of jesus to
particular today. there was one proselyte frequently quoted in the mishnah,
onkelos.
but the idea that whoever has a jewish mother is
jewish, the mother the nation, the father the tribe, etc. is a conflation of
religion and blood ala nazism. the chosen people idea is evil. and so said
soros’s hero popper. and this evil idea has evil consequences.
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44. mulga mumblebrain says:Next New Comment
Instead the cult of sociopaths has triumphed, through
straight bribery, blackmail and ruthless propaganda, and it is the First
Amendment that went, instead. Surely one can see the Divine Hand at work here.
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45. mulga mumblebrain says:Next New Comment
As an elderly survivor of the Nazi Judeocide once
observed, ‘Once ‘antisemites’ were people who hated Jews, but now they are
people who Jews hate’.
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46. mulga mumblebrain says:Next New Comment
The Old Testament/Torah, the oldest extant description
of genocide, its ways and means, and numerous exhortations to commit it and two
great ‘religious’ celebrations, Passover and Purim, both celebrating genocide
of the Israelites ‘enemies’ (definitely innocents in the Passover case,
probably in the case of Purim, although both are, of course, mythical
wish-fulfillment), ‘humanistic’?
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47. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:Next New Comment
Can’t live them and can’t live without them. What are
we to do?
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January 7, 2022 at 8:54 pm GMT • 1.1 hours ago • 100
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Your comment is one big lie pile of
bovine feces after another:
In the time of Esther and her uncle Mordecai, the
pimp-spy-snitch-murderer, the Persian leadership and people had aided the
Hebrews to return to their land and rebuild it. Persians even gave them money
to do so.
Esther & Mordechai chose to remain where the
livin’ was easier.
Jews murdered innocent Persians — people who had aided
and sheltered Jews — out of Jewish desire to take the good stuff that other
people had.
Spots, leopards,
so it goes
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49. Steve Naidamast says:Next New Comment
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Though I did not read the book under review here, I
have read Shahak’s, “Jewish Fundamentalism in Israel”, which literally makes
Christian Fundamentalists in the United States look like the bastions of pure
logic.
“Jewish Fundamentalism in Israel” is a searing inside
look at how the present-day right in Israel along with its ultra-orthodox
allies have fomented and promoted the categorically absurd belief system that
even modern Judaism has become over so many years.
However, to get to the current point in time took more
than the earlier fringe Israeli Right-Wing as it was primarily prior to the
Netanyahu years. What it took was the Israeli Left, which has historically been
the bulk of Jewish political thinking. And it was the Jewish Left that were the
founders of the Israeli state.
For such an understanding, one has to read Tikva
Honig-Parnass’ book, “False Prophets of Peace”, in which she describes a Left
leaning political ideology that literally designed a legal system, first
predicated on classic Judaic hatred for gentiles and Arabs, but second, twisted
to such an extent in order to make the development of modern law a study in
convoluted irrationality.
For example, everyone here knows how often Israeli
promoters have stated that Israel is the only democracy in the Mid East. Well
like Shahak’s studies in the Jewish Religion, Parnass demonstrates the same
zeal in demonstrating how limited such a statement in reality really is.
The idea that Israel is the only democracy in the Mid
East is founded on a very basic construct, that the Israeli state has
elections. The fact that Palestinians have no real voice in such elections and
nor do many Gentiles living in Israel is completely ignored by the Israeli
politicians and intelligentsia of the state, along with an overwhelming number
of Israeli citizens.
Thus Parnass demonstrates that first the religion
forced subordination to the community leaders but the political elite have now
fashioned a political system predicated on sheer fantastical political
thinking.
In short, most Israelis are simply bat-shit crazy who
have enabled the development of a totally sociopathic state.
The downside is that sociopathology cannot be cured
because of its generational development over so many years, whereas,
psychopathology can be managed so that the individual psychopath can actually
become a functioning and productive member of society…
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50. Francis Miville says:Next New Comment
Shahak had a very cliché and inaccurate view of what
Sparta stood for. The prime model for a totalitarian society based on mind
control was Athens, not Sparta. In Sparta you were a good person if you
physically fought for the good cause and proved it through acts of physical heroism
: discussion about religious or philosophical ideas was otherwise absolutely
free. In Athens you were a good person if the contents of your mind was
political correctness and group think, everybody was constantly inquiring about
the wrongness of the other’s ideas. You could otherwise behave as a perfect
traitor to the common good or asshole if you uphold the common political
correctness and submitted to the common mind control : actually there was no
concept of res publica in Athens. No blows were barred in business and business
was essentially spying and piracy.
There were many intellectual refugees and
consciousness fleeing Athens to Sparta not to undergo Socrates’ fate, NEVER any
known case of any one having taken refuge in the reverse direction. The proof
and explanation of that is very straightforward : Peloponese had an economy
based on the production of physical goods, both through agriculture and crafts,
while Attica had an economy based on speculation alone as it lacked proper land
for growing enough food and raw materials to make its crafts go. The only
natural ressource it had was silver from the time the giant ore deposit of
Laurion was discovered, which instantly turned Athens into a money-minting city
for the whole Aegean sea region. The tutelary deity of Sparta was not Ares as
is commonly and wrongly guessed in pop questionaries : it was Artemis, the
goddess of natural order and natural fertility. Athena, most opposite, was the
goddess of cunning (sophia : seing in the night without being seen) and dirty
tricks (technai), both terms having been bowdlerized in translation as wisdom
and arts.
Between the Helots and the warrior citizens, Sparta
had a big middle class of people called the perioikoi, mostly prosperous small
farmers and craftsmen who enjoyed full status as law-abiding inhabitants (the
only thing they couldn’t do was voting), while in Athens outside the demos,
which comprised about 13% of voting-age males of Attica (Athen’s suburbia) and
3% of the greater Athenian-ruled territory, people had zero rights and were
subject to absolute arbitrary. There was no Athenian middle class majority as
such, dirt-level poverty was the norm, while among the demos (not the people :
the exact translation would be the party in the sense of former Eastern bloc
countries, with the difference any form of productive work was considered as a
blemish, not a virtue) one was called a poor man in need of community support
because he could afford only seven slaves. In Sparta the lowest group, the
swarthy Helots, comprised 25% of Peloponese about the same proportion as Blacks
in states where they are traditionally present in the US. They were never
slaves and despite their very low rank and the various humiliations they
suffered from were entitled to 50% of the plus-value of their work. In Athens
slaves were the majority, followed by the metics who were transitory guest
workers.
Jews always admired Athens, not Sparta, as Athens the
city of reference for the other Greek cities where Jews grew so prosperous,
especially Alexandria, and had a morality ensconcing speculation as the highest
occupation in life. Many Jews even believed they themselves had in reality
founded the political system of Athens so as to educate and civilize the rest
of Greece, that is to say make that whole white people most docile : Plato
believed Athens had been made into a democracy by the “Phoenicians” (ho phoinikos
mythos) with the difference he did not consider that influence to be positive
but the beginning of the demise of the Greek race. Saint Paul believed in that
rumor he never questioned but rather used for his propaganda (first the Jew,
then the Greek… along a long pecking order).
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The Hebrew prophets are very universal in their
message.
? …. here is 1 Samuel 15:3
Now go and attack Amalek, and utterly destroy all that
they have; do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox
and sheep, camel and donkey.’”
Here is popular rabbi Manis Friedman saying the same
thing today …. https://www.haaretz.com/1.5062382
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52. milosevic says:Next New Comment
see here (http://daatemet.org.il/en/torah-talmud/daily-peppers/ ]
for more pearls of Talmudic wisdom, including these burning issues:
— Is one who urinates from the roof of the synagogue
permitted to hold his sexual organ?
— How should one remove a snake which sexually desires
a woman and enters her sexual organ?
— On the Sabbath, should one use pottery or a stone to
wipe the anus?
— Is one permitted to learn Torah in the presence of
the odor of flatulence?
— Is it permissible for one to place his sexual organ
into his own anus?
— If a person has sexual relations with his sister,
and that same sister is also his aunt on his mother’s side, and his aunt on his
father’s side, does that count as one sin, or three?
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53. Trinity says:
January 7, 2022 at 9:41 pm GMT • 17 minutes ago • 100
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White traitor trash have done more harm to America and
Europe than all the smelly Jews and lying Dindus combined. Any way you slice
it, it was greedy white traitor trash that are the main culprit in the
destruction of the West.
Thank you, Woody, Cuckhill, Ike, FDR, Trump, Joey
Biden, Willie, Dubya, Ronnie,etc.
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