Tuesday, September 25, 2018

761 De opkomst of de overwinning van China ?

Rootman schreef : "zou graag meer deskundige meningen vernemen."

Dan moet je dit lange artikel op UNZ goed bestuderen: http://www.unz.com/article/trade-war-iii/

Fascinerend.
De Chinezen staan al volledig gewonnen.
Amerika kan dit nooit meer winnen, wat ze ook doen.

Reden: Chinezen zijn veel slimmer en werken veel beter. Zijn hoger opgeleid voor dezelfde job.
Elke maatregel die de  VS afkondigt om China te schaden, zal China sterker maken.  ( Zo gebeurde ook met Rusland.)

Voorbeelden:
Chinezen presteren véél beter dan zwarten en Hispanics op de factory floor. Daarom is het voor VS bedrijven zeer onaantrekkelijk om de productie terug naar de VS te halen.

450 miljoen Chinezen verdienen beter dan de gemiddelde Amerikaan ( over enkele jaren).

Een ban op 5G technologie leveren aan China geeft juist de Chinese companies de kans dat gat zelf te vullen. 

China wordt in de westerse pers negatief afgeschilderd.  ( piracy,  slechte werkomstandigheden, vervuilend etc.)  Dat zijn grotendeels leugens.

Etc. etc.

Trade War III
Third Time's the Charm
The trade war will not result in bringing more business back to American soil: Just 6% of our member companies say this current US-China trade dispute would make them consider relocating operations back home.
William Zarit, Chairman of The American Chamber of Commerce in China.
This is America’s third trade war on China: we held its head under water from 1949-1971 and from 1989-92. Inter alia, the US, the EU and the USSR embargoed all weapons technology to prevent China from independently developing the H-Bomb or launching satellites. She did both and kept her economy growing debt-free, twice as fast as ours. This time, embargoes will have even less effect, for several reasons:
I. LABOR
President Trump observed, “China’s leaders are much smarter than our leaders and we can’t sustain ourselves like that. It’s like, taking the New England Patriots and Tom Brady and having them play your high school football team”. Even Henry Kissinger agreed, “The Chinese are smarter than us so my approach was to tell the truth upfront because they’d figure it out anyway”. Trouble is, they’re smarter all the way down.
PISA tests show their high schoolers graduating three years ahead of ours in STEM subjects and add to that their five point IQ advantage and you get a labor force comfortable in the 21st century. A friend, a director-level employee with an engineering background who has worked with multiple multinational companies in various capacities, but has been primarily based in the US sees it this way (his emphasis):
Most people don’t realize that the Toyota factory churning out cars has only half of its staff on the manufacturing floor. The other half is engineers and supply chain guys, supervisors etc…. the engineers at these facilities are responsible for fixing daily technical issues and working with R & D. The vast majority of modern manufacturing is done by machines.
American manufacturing moved to China not because of dumb labor, but because you could hire high IQ people for dirt cheap. If your machine broke down, no problem; some Chinese guy (with basically a masters in EE) would pull out the circuit boards and using probes and other instrumentation determine what board needed replacing and he would work annually for a fraction of the salary of his equivalent in the US.
Manufacturing in the US is a nightmare: at our facility our only requirement for a assembler was a high school degree, US citizenship, passing a drug and criminal background check and then passing a simple assembly test: looking at an assembly engineering drawing and then putting the components together.
The vast majority of Americans were unable to complete the assembly test, while for our facility in China they completed it in half the time and 100% of the applicants passed. An assembler position in the US would average maybe 30 interviews a day and get 29 rejections, not to mention all the HR hassles of assemblers walking off shift, excessive lateness, stealing from work, slow work speed and poor attitudes.
The product line is highly specialized equipment, so it makes no sense to fully automate it, most of the components are assembled by hand and for certain steps we use custom engineered jigs. And for those saying that the position wasn’t paying enough, it paid $12 an hour starting in an area with an extremely low cost of living where property taxes for a 2000 square foot house would be $800-$1000 a year. Assemblers don’t make $150K. An assembler takes parts and puts them together. The position starts at $12 an hour in flyover country which is pretty reasonable compared to other jobs that only require a GED and no prior work experience. Offers medical, dental and annual raises with plenty of opportunity to move up in the company. The national average salary for a Production Assembler is $33,029 in United States, which is what you would be making if you stayed for 5+ years.
Finding a black or Hispanic capable of passing these simple requirements and passing the assembly test is merely impossible nevermind being competent, punctual and of good moral character (not stealing from company or starting conflicts with coworkers). And these are the main groups that apply for this position. The same exact product line has the same facility in China, and the same positions in China pays the same wages as other positions there with only a high school degree and no work experience. Yet the applicant quality is much higher, and this applies as well to the white collar professions that support the manufacturing: schedulers, quality inspectors, equipment testers and calibrators, engineers, supply chain managers, account managers, sales etc….their labor quality is simply higher. I suspect the blacks and Hispanics are probably too dumb to get affirmative action too dumb to go to college, so they probably average 75 IQ and their Chinese equivalents are probably 95 but the performance gap is massive.
The equivalent position, with the same requirements is present in all countries, with corresponding wages. There is no shortage of applicants in most countries, but in the US the younger candidates routinely fail the exam while in China they routinely pass. The US has a higher proportion of unfit workers than China. Statistically, people that don’t have college degrees apply to this job (and statistically blacks and Hispanics are less likely to have college degrees so the bulk of applicants are black and Hispanic). Likewise in China, the people who typically apply for these positions are high school grads who failed to score enough on the Gao Kao (China’s version of the SAT) and thus unable to gain acceptance into a university.
There’s a reason why all the tech CEO’s and high level management employees are convinced they can’t replace China and its not because they want to make more profits. At the end of the day, high-end and middling manufacturing is not moving to either the US or Mexico because the average person in flyover country and Mexico are dumb as rocks. And anyone praising Mexico is not upper management and there is a very good reason why Mexico’s economy stagnated until NAFTA which basically was nothing more than a scam to rebrand things manufactured in other countries ‘Made in Mexico’ and export them to the US to avoid tariffs. If Mexico was a competent country with quality workers the laws of economics would magically reroute supply chains without trade wars, tariffs or free trade agreements and likewise the same applies for every 3rd world sh1thole like India or Somalia.
Companies choose eastern Europe and China for high IQ, work ethic, competence combined with lower wages.
2. DEBT
As part of our media’s ‘extend and pretend’ approach, things are bad in China and debt is high on the list of looming catastrophes which a truly just God should have inflicted on the heathen country by now. But the facts say otherwise–and China’s debt is mostly between government departments in an economy growing three times faster than ours.
3. CURRENT ACCOUNT SURPLUS
Both countries’ current account are negative, America’s more so.
4. TRADE DEPENDENCY
Trade comprises 13% of our GDP, 18% of China’s and 43% of the EU’s. China’s balance of trade (imports vs exports) has remained between -2% and -3% since 2007 and is currently in almost perfect balance and trade with the US contributes 2.5% to her GDP. America’s balance of trade has remained between -1.5% and -0.5% since 2007 and trade with China contributes 1% to America’s GDP, suggesting that our deficit reflects our low rate of domestic saving and a high rate of federal borrowing. Ceteris paribus, if China-US trade falls by (an extreme) 20%, China’s GDP will drop by 0.5% and ours by 0.2%.
5. OPERATING ASSUMPTIONS
When we we deputized the Chinese to do our dirty manufacturing and recycle our trash decades ago our media hailed the move as inspired and, for a while, we felt like winners. Now that era is ending, we’re in denial and President Trump’s China man, Peter Navarro, reflects our media’s unwillingness to confront reality in his academic paper, The Economics of the ‘China Price’. He asks, “How has China been able to emerge as the world’s factory floor?” and answers, “ The answer lies in the eight major ‘economic drivers’ of the China price:
  1. Low wages,
  2. Counterfeiting and piracy,
  3. Minimal worker health and safety regulations,
  4. Lax environmental regulations and enforcement,
  5. Export industry subsidies,
  6. A highly efficient “industrial network clustering”,
  7. The catalytic role of foreign direct investment (FDI),
  8. An undervalued currency”.
Since his analysis informs the President’s policy, let’s look a little closer:
Low wages? Adjusted for productivity, benefits, etc., Chinese workers cost their employers as much as their American cousins and their wages are doubling every decade and 450,000,000 urban Chinese will have higher net worth and more disposable income than the average American by 2021.
Counterfeiting and piracy? Our media has long promoted this canard whereas in fact China is ahead of us in most areas. It is the most influential country in four of eight core scientific fieldscomputer science, mathematics, materials science and engineering (more than 70% of academic patent families published in quantum information technology since 2012 have been from Chinese universities. US universities are second with 12%). China also leads the world in research, development and deployment in all fields of clean energy and most fields of civil engineering, manufacturing, supercomputing, speech recognition, graphenics, thorium power, pebble bed reactors, genomics, thermal power generation, quantum communication networks, ASW missiles, in-orbit satellite refueling, passive array radar, metamaterials, hyperspectral imaging, nanotechnology, UHV electricity transmission, railway engineering, electric vehicles, radiotelescopy, hypersonic weapons, satellite quantum communications and quantum secure direct communications. Court records in the WTO’s TRIPS database, in San Jose, Shanghai and Beijing (where Apple is currently suing Qualcomm) record no theft of significant technologies. Buyouts, IP transfers, indigenous development and and $30 billion in annual licensing payments account for 99.9% of China’s IP.
Minimal worker health and safety regulations? Chinese labor unions, whose 130 million members outnumber the rest of the world’s combined, have thus far persuaded the government to ratify four of eight UN Labor Conventions (the US has ratified two), two of four Governance Conventions (the US, one) and twenty-two of 177 Technical Conventions (the US, eleven). The Labor Contract Law permits employers to unilaterally terminate employees, with severance, only if they remain incompetent after training or reassignment and, since labor courts interpret them strictly, employers who defy labor laws invariably suffer adversely. Even the Voice of America admitted, “In 1995 China enacted a labor law granting all workers the right to a wage, rest periods, no excessive overtime and the right to carry out group negotiations. Beijing, hoping to push local authorities to address the situation, issued a notice to local governments to make improving labor relations an ‘urgent task’ and work to ensure employees are paid on time and in full, launch programs to provide better labor protections for rural migrant workers and call on employers to improve workplace safety. Although many labor protesters have been detained, few have been criminally prosecuted”. Conditions in Chinese factories are generally better than those in equivalent factories Stateside.
Lax environmental regulations and enforcement? China’s environmentalregulations are as strong as America’s and enforcement will overtake ours within two years. If that sounds far fetched, compare the draconian powers of their new Environment Ministry and the number environmental offenders they have prosecuted and jailed.
Export industry subsidies? The public record shows China has honored far more of its WTO agreements than America.
A highly efficient “industrial network clustering”? Adding clustering to high quality employees makes manufacturing in China very sticky.
The catalytic role of foreign direct investmentA.T. Kearney says the US and China attract the same level of FDI.
An undervalued currency?Our trade deficits are caused not by an undervalued yuan but by a seriously overvalued dollar, caused primarily by excessive foreign demand for dollars and dollar-based assets.
China’s currency has been fairly valued for years against a weighted basket of its trading partners’ currencies and has stayed comfortably within its trading band. The value of the dollar fluctuates far more than the value of the basket.
If China were guilty of currency manipulation as defined by the IMF, it would run significant current account surpluses and it doesn’t. China runs large trade deficits with other countries to balance its exceptionally heavy dependence on trade surpluses with America. The overall trade balance demonstrates beyond reasonable doubt that America’s trade deficits with China are not the result of an undervalued yuan but of an overvalued dollar. Recent work indicates that the dollar is currently overvalued by 20-25% with respect to the rate that would give America truly balanced external trade.
What about logic? Americans and Chinese are willing partners each of whom considers theirs the best deal in the world. Who will pay the additional 10% tariff? US consumers could lose, quite substantially, and Chinese firms would lose, too, as higher prices depress demand even if the tariff is mostly paid by American consumers. So fewer Chinese companies might survive and massive job losses would cause a severe economic downturn and the trade war could cause many companies to go bankrupt, thus removing redundant capacity from the market, leaving healthy companies earning healthy returns–and one of the key Chinese government objectives just before the outbreak of trade war was to shed low-margin, low-tech, inefficient manufacturers.
How About Killing “Made in China 2025? The US has not been generous in technology transfer in the past. In fact, China is still forbidden to acquire a host of technologies the US considers strategic and still blocked from participating in projects like the ISS. The US provided a storm warning by banning sales of Intel Xeon chips to China in 2015 because they were used to power supercomputers (China released a computer powered by indigenous chips in 2016 and regained the lead). And since the ban on ZTE (a world leader in 5G intellectual property) many chip startups whose founders have technological knowhow and industrial experience but were unable to enter the supply chains of companies like ZTE, have persuaded big manufacturers to try their product and show more patience. Chances are that Chinese companies will not be starved of technology: instead our tech giants will be gradually marginalized by their Chinese competitors who would not have had such opportunities prior to the ban.
Finance all this with billions China would have invested in American tech firms and staff it with returning Chinese expat researchers/engineers discriminated against and suspected of spying under reborn McCarthyism, and Beijing could hardly be happier because, in the end, their biggest defense against a trade war is China’s market size that doubles along with wages every decade.
Can China Play Offence? China is seeking an ever-closer union with the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership, RCEP, between all ten ASEAN members, China, India, Japan, South Korea, Australia and New Zealand–half of the world’s population and forty percent of global GDP, thirty percent larger than NAFTA growing twice as fast. Expect to see it concluded this year. The Belt and Road Initiative already facilitates trade between seventy-three member countries that comprise two-thirds of world population and a third of the world’s nominal GDP–even without Japan and India. And BRI is negotiating to merge with the EAEU (183 million consumers and nominal GDP of $4 trillion) which Turkey and Iran have expressed interest in joining.
The world is well prepared for Washington’s withdrawal from the WTO which, given its record, will be something of a relief. Most of the tools for handling global trade without the US are in place making it likely that protectionism, unilateralism and self-imposed isolation will only demonstrate that the world can get by pretty well without us.
Reality Check. Sometime between 2020-2025, every Chinese will have a home, a job, plenty of food, education, safe streets, health and old age care. On that day there will be more homeless, poor, hungry and imprisoned people in America than in China and 450,000,000 urban Chinese will have higher net worth and more disposable income than the average American. Their mothers and infants will be less likely than ours to die in childbirth, their children will graduate from high school three years ahead of–and outlive–ours. If China wins the trade war and the world’s hearts and minds, it’s pretty much game over, almost by default.
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  1. Old Left says:
    For at least a couple of decades I’ve wondered how it is that the astonishing levels of stupidity and delusion rampant in workplaces, classrooms, and entertainment in America had somehow not diminished America’s standing in the world. In the last few years, and particularly since Trump took office with that inane MAGA slogan, I realized that the effect had merely been hidden by the sheer bulk of the American empire. In the last election, a contest between two of the vainest, empty, and corrupt figures in public life, the rot became visible. The meme that Trump is incompetent and plain crazy hides the uglier truth that the country has nothing better with which to replace him. The ruling class is shooting blanks. It has degenerated into a class of bird-brained twits insulated from reality and enervated by obscene wealth. American politics are now a Punch and Judy show for morons, Democrats and Republicans equally devoid of any vision beyond winning the next election so they and their cronies can retain a place at the trough. Meanwhile, the only thing the American media is good for is manufacturing hysterias about Russian collusion and victimized women and pet minorities.
    I’d say the real advantage that China (and Russia) have over the US is that their leadership is not insane.
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  2. Yee says:
    This trade war thing is about who is the last man standing.
    It’s not about who is going to lose more but about who is better at handle the lose. If Navaro and Trump believe just because China’s exports to the US is much larger than the US exports to China, the war is easy to win, they’re naive.
    Anyway, I suspect the whole thing isn’t about trade deficit at all. Its real aim is to de-stabilized China. There’s serious money to make in the destruction of a country.
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  4. Fran Macadam says: • Website
    Old Left, your analysis is factually irrefutable.
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  5. Franz says:
    Amen!
    And predicted by every last (few) non-bought-off union committeeman two decades ago.
    They said, listen: “Give China the means of production and China will, in a few years, have the wherewithal to build a colossal and enduring middle class. Period. It works that way.”
    Whilst the USA will have overpopulation, a warring class of “enriching” aliens plundering the place like Norse Vikings plundered the Irish Coast, and no, repeat, NO chance of reversing the trend in anyway with overpopulation and a mismatch of ethnicities bound and determined to kill each other.
    Only enclaves will save us, some think, imagining our former enemies will allow that sort of thing to happen when we are broke, destitute and the hostiles against us are swarming to destroy what little will be left.
    Little wonder the War Party favors attacking as much as possible. They have a point. Conquest is at least a way out, no matter how wretched the odds may be.
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  6. m___ says:
    The comparison implicitely supposes growth, production, dominance as the solution to a global human world of quality. This worldview preposition is not, China is way too conventional and human-historical to be an alternative to a world of quality of life.
    Rightful analysis (no false notes) of insignificant factors as to the future of humankind. A practical, myopic mindset as compared to overview. The “bee-hive” (machine like men, continuous, smarter leadership) model of China can be superior to the “cage of rats” model of the US, but does it matter?
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  7. Tulips says:
    I have a relative, an engineer with a German-owned machine company near Boston, who delivered custom-designed plastic extrusion machinery to a Chinese firm. The contract required his company to train the machine operators. He expected to be teaching 12 or 15 high school grads. Instead the operators had engineering degrees, were very attentive, and asked detailed questions. He was impressed. That was in the mid-1990s.
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  8. ThreeCranes says:
    Paul Krugman (and the like) breezily brush aside concerns about our trade deficits while poopooing those who fear losing our technical preeminence to China.
    “All will be well” he says, (well, I’m putting the words in his mouth, but they embody the sentiment) “because, you see, productivity gains in our economy have averaged 2.5% for the last 100 years. And that means (by the rule of 72) that in 30 years we will all be twice as rich. So don’t worry about the trade deficit or government debt or whether there will be enough in the Social Security fund to pay out benefits when you retire or whether Medicare will be bankrupted by then either because we’ll all be twice as rich then and that will offset all those obligations! ” “Wheeeeeeeee!”
    Problem is, the anticipated productivity growth didn’t materialize. Instead we’ve been limping along at 1.3% so all the debt we incurred in the interim is a millstone around our necks. And now our drug-addled workforce is rusty, our factories in China and Mexico…..
    Nevertheless, I don’t entirely agree with Godfree Roberts, who seems to take a sadistic delight in the plight of the American worker.. At one time, Americans did build things well and we could again irrespective of anything China does. It’s just that there’s no will for that in high places. But it’s nothing a good world war wouldn’t fix, which is why the Globalists are always running down nationalism.
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  9. Wally says:
    So how are these new & relatively low US Tariffs on Chinese goods bad for the US worker & US economy while the long standing & massive Chinese tariffs on US goods not bad for the Chinese workers & Chinese economy?
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  10. FKA Max says: • Website
    @Yee
    There’s serious money to make in the destruction of a country.
    Correct, the U.S., specifically its middle-class, has been decimated/destroyed and sold out by its 1% (many of whom are Jewish and feel no allegiance to the historic American nation and people (WASPs)), to the advantage of the Chinese et al. middle classes, even Godfree Roberts, indirectly, admits to that:
    Sometime between 2020-2025, every Chinese will have a home, a job, plenty of food, education, safe streets, health and old age care. On that day there will be more homeless, poor, hungry and imprisoned people in America than in China and 450,000,000 urban Chinese will have higher net worth and more disposable income than the average American.
    China’s peaceful and win-win approach to bring humanity forward through commerce …
    Mr. Wong,
    the American/Western lower middle class has not benefited from this “win-win” approach
    [...]
    It is by now well-known that the period from the mid-1980s to today has been the period of the greatest reshuffle of personal incomes since the Industrial Revolution. It’s also the first time that global inequality has declined in the past two hundred years. The “winners” were the middle and upper classes of the relatively poor Asian countries and the global top 1%. The (relative) “losers” were the people in the lower and middle parts of rich countries’ income distributions, according to detailed household surveys data from more than 100 countries between 1988 and 2008, put together and analyzed by Christoph Lakner and myself, as well as my book Global Inequality: A New Approach for the Age of Globalization, which includes updated information to 2011.
    The Chinese are trying to influence and control the U.S. by influencing and controlling influential, elite U.S. Jews. 
    [...]
    The Chinese Believe That the Jews Control America. Is That a Good Thing?
    [...]
    If China’s global clout does not yet match its status as one of the world’s fastest-growing economies, developing closer ties with Israel and the Jewish Diaspora may be a relatively easy way to widen China’s influence, or so some Chinese leaders seem to believe.
    How China “Captures” US Officials
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  11. Yee says:
    FKA Max,
    It’s pretty funny that, in China, we have the similar worry that the domestic and foreign capitalists (1% for you) are trying to take over every industry. All they want is privatization of everything.
    Well, we think we can solve the problem by resisting further privatization, and “ThreeCranes” thinks a world war can solve the problem, the vast majority of American people think tariffs can solve the problem…
    Not sure how this whole thing turn out. But I suspect those who are viewed as enemy by Chinese or Americans are the same people.
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13 comments:

  1. "De opkomst of de overwinning van China."

    Geen van twee.

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  2. Hier is een goede uitleg van de elephant chart, waar je naar verwees bij Blik.

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/hottest-chart-economics-means

    Het artikel van Milanovic zelf is ook zeer de moeite waard (zal ik zo doorsturen).

    De elephant bevestigt alles wat je hierboven zegt/wat het UNZ artikel zegt.

    Maar het is een relatieve waarheid

    In China ligt het gemiddelde inkomen een stuk lager dan in de VS. Als die gemiddelde inkomens in China met 70% groeien (tussen 1988 en 2008), zegt dat iets maar niet veel, als je de salarissen zou uitzetten op absolute schaal.

    1.7 keer een laag inkomen, blijft een laag inkomen (China)

    0.95 keer een hoog inkomen, blijft een hoog inkomen (westerse wereld)

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    1. Paper

      http://documents.worldbank.org/curated/en/959251468176687085/pdf/wps6259.pdf

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    2. En Chomsky over het fenomeen: China als nieuwe wereldmacht?

      Wschl niet

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YKgmSICvcrU

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  3. Mijn bullshit sensor gaat af bij deze Godfree Roberts. Zijn laatste alinea doet het hem denk ik. Quote

    'Reality Check. Sometime between 2020-2025, every Chinese will have a home, a job, plenty of food, education, safe streets, health and old age care. On that day there will be more homeless, poor, hungry and imprisoned people in America than in China and 450,000,000 urban Chinese will have higher net worth and more disposable income than the average American. Their mothers and infants will be less likely than ours to die in childbirth, their children will graduate from high school three years ahead of–and outlive–ours. If China wins the trade war and the world’s hearts and minds, it’s pretty much game over, almost by default.'

    Dat kan korter: als wij de Chinezen als de grote heilbrengers (die het zijn), komt alles goed. Aldus Roberts.

    Probleem: de geschiedenis laat keer op keer zien dat de heilbrengers van deze wereld weinig anders hebben te brengen dan het goed verzorgen van hun eigen heil. Dus mijn vertrouwen dat het bij Chinezen anders is, is bij voorbaat niet hoog.

    Maar zelfs als het heilbrengers zijn, is dat niet te makkelijk voor ons? Moeten wij, als publiek, niet eens een trap onder onze kont krijgen en onze verkozen leiders zelf tot de orde roepen?

    Zo gezien denk ik dat TPTB erg tevreden zijn met Roberts analyse over China. Gewoon houden van China (met 'hearts and minds') en dan overwinnen we het koelbloedige westerse imperium. Natuurlijk... Zelfs als het al waar is, krijg je daar een ander imperium voor in de plaats en dat noem ik geen vooruitgang, hoogstens Animal Farm: de boer inruilen voor het varken. Lood om oud ijzer.

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    1. Dan de zin:

      'Sometime between 2020-2025, every Chinese will have a home, a job, plenty of food, education, safe streets, health and old age care. On that day there will be more homeless, poor, hungry and imprisoned people in America than in China and 450,000,000 urban Chinese will have higher net worth and more disposable income than the average American.'

      A) waarom getallen uit 2020-2025 erbij halen, en niet kijken naar het nu? Antwoord, omdat de auteur maar wat zwetst, en zolang het nog geen 2020-2025 is, is alles mogelijk, nietwaar?

      B) Dan '450,000,000 urban Chinese will have higher net worth and more disposable income than the average American.' Misschien, maar hoe het met de >500,000,000 Chinezen die op het platteland leven, daar houdt de auteur wijselijk zijn mond over.

      Daarbij: wat is een urban Chinees? Dat is iemand die voor een groot bedrijf werkt? Welke bedrijven floreren in China? Antwoord, ga naar de winkel en kijk eens war allemaal 'made in China' is, en welk moederbedrijf daar achter zit. Dat zijn veelal Amerikaanse bedrijven. Die de urban Chinees van een mager salaris voorziet.

      En daarbij: hoe komt de auteur aan 450.000.000? Ik verwacht dat de auteur daarmee de gemiddelde Chinese stadsinwoner bedoelt, die hij vervolgens tegen de gemiddelde Amerikaan afzet tov inkomen en bezit.

      Maar gemiddelden zeggen hier niet zo veel.

      Zet 100 Chinese landarbeiders in een kroeg, en laat ze verwelkomen door Bill Gates. Simsalabim: iedereen in die kroeg is vanaf dat moment gemiddeld multimiljonair. Maar modaal of mediaan is er geen Chinees op vooruit gegaan. Mediane of modale inkomens/bezit, laat de auteur niet zien.

      Tot slot: gemiddelde inkomens worden vaak uit het bruto binnenlands product berekent: BBP en dat dan gedeeld door het aantal inwoners van een land, oftewel bbp per capita. BBP is het totaal aan waarde gegenereerde inkomsten in een land per jaar, en dat dan gedeeld door het aantal inwoners van een land, waarmee je het gemiddelde inkomen van een inwoner hebt 'berekend'

      Probleem: de buitenlandse bedrijven in China, waaronder Amerikaanse bedrijven, sluizen het meest aan verdiende geld in China direct door naar andere landen, waardoor de Chinees zijn rijkdom gemeten in BBP niet in zijn of haar portemonnee voelt. Op dezelfde manier zijn Ieren net zo rijk als Nederlanders, want grote Amerikaanse bedrijven zitten daar hun winsten op te potten zonder daar belasting voor te hoeven betalen. In Nederland worden we op soortgelijke manier steeds rijker, maar dat is een ander verhaal.

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    2. Waar ik al deze wijsheden vandaan haal?

      Veel bij Branco Milanovic (hierboven geciteerd), Chomsky, en bij Ha Joon Chang, economoom die zeer lezenswaardige boeken over economie schrijft, en bovendien goed kan uitleggen voor een publiek.

      Hier is een voorbeeld: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n5j5EW933Kw

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    3. En met excuus voor de typo's, ik heb dit allemaal geschreven met grote haast. Ik neem aan dat eea ook met typo's duidelijk genoeg gesteld is..

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    4. Willem Willem schreef "Maar zelfs als het heilbrengers zijn, is dat niet te makkelijk voor ons? Moeten wij, als publiek, niet eens een trap onder onze kont krijgen en onze verkozen leiders zelf tot de orde roepen?"

      Hier ben ik het helemaal mee eens.

      Het hele politieke beleid hangt van los zand aan elkaar. Er zijn partijen die het presteren om zowel een groene toekomst met meer natuur als meer immigratie te propageren. Hierbij zijn er twee mogelijkheden: of ze zien zelf niet in dat dit onmogelijk is (je kunt nu eenmaal niet steeds meer mensen op een klein stukje land proppen en tegelijkertijd meer ruimte aan de natuur geven) of ze doen het bewust omdat het nu POC is om beiden te propageren. In beide gevallen zijn ze ongeschikt om een land te leiden. Eigenlijk geldt dat laatste inmiddels voor onze hele politieke elite.

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    5. Willem Willem schreef "Zelfs als het al waar is, krijg je daar een ander imperium voor in de plaats en dat noem ik geen vooruitgang, hoogstens Animal Farm: de boer inruilen voor het varken. Lood om oud ijzer."

      Eens. Bovendien maakt het de werkelijke TPTB niets uit, die 'verhuizen' gewoon naar China. Probleem voor hun wordt wel dat zij zich niet meer kunnen verschuilen.


      Willem Willem schreef "Welke bedrijven floreren in China? Antwoord, ga naar de winkel en kijk eens war allemaal 'made in China' is, en welk moederbedrijf daar achter zit. Dat zijn veelal Amerikaanse bedrijven."

      Vandaar dat ik in mijn eerste reactie in antwoord op de titel van dit blog ook schreef 'geen van twee'. Als al die Amerikaanse bedrijven hun productie terug naar de V.S. zouden halen, valt de Chinese economie grotendeels in elkaar.

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  4. @Jan, je schreef op Blik het volgende:

    "Hitler heeft niet geprobeerd de joden te vernietigen, zoals hij wel hard liep te roepen."

    Waar liep hij hard te roepen dat hij de joden wilde vernietigen? Niet in Mein Kampf, niet in officiële documenten, ook niet in toespraken. Hij maakte net als jij onderscheid tussen de 'gewone' jood en de kapitaaljoden. Hij wilde hen (net als jij) uit hun machtsposities hebben vanwege hun gedrag, het gedrag waar jij notabene dit blog voor hebt opgezet. Betekent dit dat jij ook de joden wil vernietigen?


    Je schreef "Hij staat zelfs aan de wieg van Israel."

    Nee, dat is de Balfour declaration. Dat weet je net zo goed als ik (of dat zou je moeten weten).


    Je schreef "Zonder de Transfer Agreement zou Israel er mogelijk niet zijn geweest."

    Had de transfer agreement (waar het overigens niet zo was dat de joden hun geld kwijt waren (moesten betalen om naar Israël te gaan), zij kregen na vestiging in Palestina de beschikking over hun hele tegoed) er niet geweest dan hadden de zionisten wel andere methoden bedacht om de joden naar Israël te laten immigreren. De reden dat Hitler hen uit Duitsland wilde hebben, was niet omdat hij ze wilde vernietigen maar omdat zij in 1933 in 1 klap een vijfde colonne werden na de oorlogsverklaring van de regering van Judea in ballingschap. Om dezelfde reden werden in de V.S. de Japanners in kampen gezet en in GB de Duitsers.


    Je schreef "De Zionisten waren hem flink dankbaar en boden nog in 1941 aan om met hem mee te gaan vechten in de oorlog. ( leden van de Stern Groep. De latere premier Yitzak Shamir hoorde daar bij. Bron: Lenni Brenner.)"

    Ik heb dit ook gelezen (of ze hem dankbaar waren, is een invulling van jouw kant) maar heb daar nog geen andere bronnen voor gevonden. Overigens vochten er veel meer 'gewone' joden mee aan de kant van Hitler, er waren zelfs joodse regimenten.

    Je zou je toch eens moeten verdiepen in het Nationaal Socialisme en in Hitler Duitsland. Deze reactie van jou lijkt nu op een reactie zoals Joop die zou kunnen schrijven.

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    1. Aanvulling en ter illustratie van wat ik hierboven schreef, onderstaand een uitspraak van Hitler die wel te verifiëren is:

      "Es ist eine kleine wurzellose internationale Clique, die die Völker gegeneinander hetzt, die nicht will, daß sie zur Ruhe kommen …”

      Exact de groep waar jij over schrijft.

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  5. DAG SDR en Willem,

    ik zie nu pas jullie reacties.
    Dank daarvoor.
    Ik ga ze later lezen. Ben nu op vakantie, en heb al een volle dag verloren aan een kleine Griekse Tragdie ! ( Zie volgende blog.)

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