Snowden told the world that the
I have my own view why they do this, and it has to do with the very old idea of the Jewish people that one day they must (and will) rule over all the people in the world.
I think the easiest way to clarify this is as I do it below:
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Now, suppose I was a religious jew.
Then my ultimate goal in life would be:
Do everything necessary for the jewish Messiah to come to Earth.
I quote Wikipedia:
The main tenets of Jewish eschatology are the following, in no particular order, elaborated in the Books of Isaiah, Jeremiah and Ezekiel [1]:
- God redeems Israel (i.e. the Jewish people) from the captivity that began during the Babylonian Exile, in a new Exodus
- God returns the Jewish people to the Land of Israel
- God restores the House of David and the Temple in Jerusalem
- God creates a regent from the House of David (i.e. the Jewish Messiah) to lead the Jewish people and the world and usher in an age of justice and peace
- All nations recognize that the God of Israel is the only true God
- God resurrects the dead
- God creates a new heaven and a new earth
So the Jewish people are waiting for the Messiah.
The Messiah will not only rule over the Jewish people, but over the whole world.
All peoples of the world will recognize the Jewish Messiah as their leader.
Now, wouldn't it be natural that the Jewish Messiah only comes when 'All peoples' of the world are already under Jewish rule, so that the Messiah doesn't have to do any dirty work himself?
That would be the perfect time for God to send 'The Messiah'.
As Adiel Schremer, of Bar Ilan University, Israel, wrote
[T]he construction of the eschatological redemption in terms of the total eradication of the nations, or at least in association with such an expectation, has a potential of shaping a violent personality and might contribute to. . . a violent mind-setting.
For if one is hoping for God’s redemption soon to come, and is inspired by the idea of a total vanquish-ing of Israel’s enemies as an essential part of that redemption, one’s violent inclinations are not entirely suppressed and in a sense they are being fostered.
( Translation in Dutch: see below *)
So if the jews can get rid of their enemies, the conditions for the coming of the Messiah, and thus for resurrection of the dead, and a new heaven and earth, are met.
Very tempting idea, isn't it ?
Was that why there were so many attempts to organise a World Government , all by jewish people? ( See: blog 178)
But how can we get rid of our enemies?
You would need an awful lot of arms and fighting to conquer 7 billion unwilling people.
The motto of the mossad is: "By way of deception thou shalt make war."
If you could convince people that they are their own bosses. That they vote for their leaders, then what reason would they have to rebel?
So we need democracies ? YES !
Real democracies? NO !
Of course not.
We need democracies with Media that give the impression that all things can be said, but that are, nevertheless, censored.
Whaauw. But that seems impossible to me....?
How do you mean, impossible?
Look at the reality on the ground, right now: :
"There is no nonsense so arrant that it cannot be made the creed of the
vast majority by adequate governmental action". ( Bertrand Russell)
For example: Everybody believes that building WTC7 fell down with the speed of free fall because a thousand huge bolts snapped one after another, exactly in time, to the milli-second. Because of burning furniture on some floors !
Every opinion you have of peoples ability to think is too high an estimate..
People are unable to think. Professors, journalists all of them.
May I quote some other people:
Edward Bernays:
"The intelligent manipulation of the masses is an invisible government, which is the true ruling power in our country."
"The intelligent manipulation of the masses is an invisible government, which is the true ruling power in our country."
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn:
Such as it
is, the press has become the greatest power within the Western World, more
powerful than the legislature, the executive and judiciary. One would like to
ask: by whom has it been elected and to whom is it responsible?
So it is not so difficult to manipulate almost all people into believing whatever you want to tell them.
And as you can read in a very interesting book : 'We can cause so much horror on the world that people will come running to us and beg us to take the government o the world upon us.'
But there is more !
Now that almost all people in the world have a computer and write whatever they think, we can easily scan all written texts they produce and thus find out how much a person understands of what is really happening in the world.
So we can easily filter out all our ( future ) enemies.
We will give them a hard time. They will not be promoted. Their company will be black-listed and will loose customers. They will be punished for things that almost everybody else does, like tax-evasion etc.
We can also filter out all our future collaborators. Not people from our tribe, of course. Intelligent men, but by nature naïve enough to further our agenda.
That's how simple it is, really.
You don't have to kill anybody.
Just create a world view in everybody's head, using our MSM, which is favorable for us, and declare all dissidents to be idiots.
They are loosers already, as we sabotage their careers and companies.
And when its really necessary they can always have an accident.
But: There are so few religious jews in the world, and so many liberal jews.
True.
So what's the problem if we have controle over the world and we discover that the Messiah doesn't show up, simply because he doesn't exist ?
Its fine with me.
As long as we can create anti-semitism (**)or at least suggest anti-semitism, jews will always be loyal to the jewish case.
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So far my take on PRISM and Snowden.
( Update from 11 sept 2013: Israel gets all PRISM info unfiltered from the USA: Volkskrant or Guardian or: see the article below. )
Far fetched you say ?
( Update from 11 sept 2013: Israel gets all PRISM info unfiltered from the USA: Volkskrant or Guardian or: see the article below. )
Far fetched you say ?
That may be because you are 'uninformed'.
It is exactly the way Aipac works in the USA, for years already. They note exactly what every politician votes for and against. If he is so stupid as to be a little critical to Israel, they will immediately make sure that with the next elections a competitor will win the elections. End of story.
Read what Tony Judt ( famous Jewish historian) said about it. Read what others said: blog 9
In this way they make the USA taxpayer pay 3 to 5 billion $ to Israel, every year, an another 2 billion to Egypt ( as long as it will not criticise Israel). Also in times of crisis. About 7 billion $, each year.
* Het geloof dat aan het einde der tijden alle ‘naties’ (landen en volken) zullen zijn weggevaagd c.q. overmeesterd, kan leiden tot een gewelddadige persoonlijkheid of een neiging tot geweld.
Want als men hoopt dat God’s verlossing snel zal komen, en geïnspireerd is door het idee dat het verdwijnen van alle vijanden van Israel daar een onderdeel van zijn, dan worden daardoor iemand’s neigingen tot geweld niet onderdrukt maar in zekere zin juist gestimuleerd.
(**) Diverse oude en nieuwe Israelische en joodse bronnen verkondigen dat het nuttig is voor het joodse voortbestaan om te haten en gehaat te worden: Rabbi Simeon, David M Weinberg, Rabbi Soloveichik, Rabbi Dr. Dan Cohn-Sherbok , Schneur Zalman en ook Theodor Herzl.
Toevoeging:
In de discussie schreef een reageerder, Michiel Jonker, een stukje tekst dat mij aan,oedigde bovenstaande blog te schrijven.
Jonker schreef o.a.:
Het gaat niet om de vraag of Snowden die de informatie lekte, of de journalisten die over de informatie publiceerden, helden zijn of niet.
De kern van het probleem is ook niet of de onthullingen van Snowden “schade” aanrichten. De kern is welke conclusies en consequenties we moeten trekken uit de feiten die Snowden heeft onthuld.
Het gaat veel verder dan het risico dat de door geheime diensten (en grote bedrijven zoals Apple, Microsoft en Google) verzamelde informatie wordt gebruikt voor strafvervolging op politieke gronden. “Strafvervolging” wordt op deze manier bijna overbodig gemaakt.
Het is ook mogelijk lastige mensen (bijvoorbeeld activisten of aankomende politici die opkomen voor burgerlijke rechten en vrijheden) uit te schakelen door ze uit te sluiten van het maatschappelijke verkeer. Om te beginnen kunnen er op basis van algoritmen in de getapte en gelabelde informatie patronen worden “herkend” (d.w.z. gedefinieerd) op grond waarvan mensen vervolgens op geheime lijsten geplaatst worden die ertoe leiden dat ze niet in aanmerking komen voor verantwoordelijke banen. Zo kunnen ze ook financieel worden afgeknepen, zodat ze alleen nog maar bezig zijn met hun eigen overleving en geen energie meer hebben om misstanden aan te kaarten.
Ook maakt de heimelijk verzamelde informatie het mogelijk om, zodra iemand “moeilijk” doet of een machthebber om andere reden onwelgevallig is, snel sleaze te produceren om iemand in publieke ogen af te branden nog voordat hij de kans heeft gekregen zijn boodschap over te brengen.
Het gaat hier dus om het heimelijk verzamelen van informatie die politiek en crimineel gebruikt kan en zal worden. Nu al zie je dat patroon in de sleaze over het verleden van journalist Greenwald van de Guardian, die plotseling opduikelt bij Amerikaanse journalisten. Door wie is deze info aan hen toegespeeld?
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Here is the Guardian article about tne NSA giving all info to Israel :------------------------
NSA shares raw intelligence including Americans' data with Israel
• Secret deal places no legal limits on use of
data by Israelis
• Only official US government communications protected
• Agency insists it complies with rules governing privacy
• Read the NSA and Israel's 'memorandum of understanding'
• Only official US government communications protected
• Agency insists it complies with rules governing privacy
• Read the NSA and Israel's 'memorandum of understanding'
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The
Guardian, Wednesday 11 September 2013 15.40 BST
The agreement for the US to provide raw intelligence data to Israel was
reached in principle in March 2009, the document shows. Photograph: James Emery
The National Security Agency routinely shares
raw intelligence data withIsrael without first sifting it to remove information about US citizens, a top-secret document provided to the Guardian by whistleblower Edward Snowden reveals.
Details of the intelligence-sharing agreement
are laid out in a memorandum of understanding between the NSA and its Israeli counterpart that shows the US government handed over
intercepted communications likely to contain phone calls and emails of American
citizens. The agreement places no legally binding limits on the use of the data
by the Israelis.
The disclosure that the NSA agreed to provide raw intelligence data to
a foreign country contrasts with assurances from the Obama administrationthat there are
rigorous safeguards to protect the privacy of US citizens caught in the dragnet. The intelligence community calls
this process "minimization", but the memorandum makes clear that the
information shared with the Israelis would be in its pre-minimized state.
The deal was reached in principle in March 2009, according to the undated memorandum, which lays out the ground rules for the intelligence sharing.
The five-page memorandum, termed an agreement between the US and Israeli
intelligence agencies "pertaining to the protection of US persons",
repeatedly stresses the constitutional rights of Americans to privacy and the
need for Israeli intelligence staff to respect these rights.
But this is undermined by the disclosure that
Israel is allowed to receive "raw Sigint" – signal intelligence. The
memorandum says: "Raw Sigint includes, but is not limited to, unevaluated
and unminimized transcripts, gists, facsimiles, telex, voice and Digital
Network Intelligence metadataand content."
According to the agreement, the intelligence
being shared would not be filtered in advance by NSA analysts to remove US communications. "NSA routinely sends ISNU
[the Israeli Sigint National Unit] minimized and unminimized raw
collection", it says.
Although the memorandum is explicit in saying the material had to be
handled in accordance with US law, and that the Israelis agreed not to
deliberately target Americans identified in the data, these rules are not
backed up by legal obligations.
"This agreement is not intended to create any legally enforceable
rights and shall not be construed to be either an international agreement or a
legally binding instrument according to international law," the document
says.
In a statement to the Guardian, an NSA spokesperson
did not deny that personal data about Americans was included in raw
intelligence data shared with the Israelis. But the agency insisted that the
shared intelligence complied with all rules governing privacy.
"Any US person information that is acquired as a result of NSA'ssurveillance activities
is handled under procedures that are designed to protect privacy rights,"
the spokesperson said.
The NSA declined to answer specific
questions about the agreement, including whether permission had been sought
from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance (Fisa) court for handing over such material.
The memorandum of understanding, which the
Guardian is publishing in full, allows Israel to retain "any files
containing the identities of US persons" for up to a year. The agreement
requests only that the Israelis should consult the NSA's special liaison
adviser when such data is found.
Notably, a much stricter rule was set for US government communications
found in the raw intelligence. The Israelis were required to "destroy upon
recognition" any communication "that is either to or from an official
of the US government". Such communications included those of
"officials of the executive branch (including the White House, cabinet
departments, and independent agencies), the US House of Representatives and
Senate (member and staff) and the US federal court system (including, but not
limited to, the supreme court)".
It is not clear whether any communications
involving members of US Congress or the federal courts have been included in
the raw data provided by the NSA, nor is it clear how or why the NSA would
be in possession of such communications. In 2009, however, the New York Times
reported on "the agency's attempt to wiretap a member of Congress, without
court approval, on an overseas trip".
The NSA is required by law to target
only non-US persons without an individual warrant, but it can collect the
content and metadata of
Americans' emails and calls without a warrant when such communication is with a
foreign target. US persons are defined in surveillance legislation as US
citizens, permanent residents and anyone located on US soil at the time of the
interception, unless it has been positively established that they are not a
citizen or permanent resident.
Moreover, with much of the world's internet traffic passing through US
networks, large numbers of purely domestic communications also get scooped up
incidentally by the agency's surveillance programs.
The document mentions only one check carried out
by the NSA on the raw intelligence, saying the agency will
"regularly review a sample of files transferred to ISNU to validate the
absence of US persons' identities". It also requests that the Israelis
limit access only to personnel with a "strict need to know".
Israeli intelligence is allowed "to
disseminate foreign intelligence information concerning US persons derived from
raw Sigint by NSA" on condition that it does so "in a manner
that does not identify the US person". The agreement also allows Israel to release US person identities to
"outside parties, including all INSU customers" with the NSA's
written permission.
Although Israel is one of America's closest allies, it is not one of the
inner core of countries involved in surveillance sharing with the US - Britain,
Australia, Canada and New Zealand. This group is collectively known as Five
Eyes.
The relationship between the US and Israel has
been strained at times, both diplomatically and in terms of intelligence. In
the top-secret 2013 intelligence community budget request, details of which were disclosed by the Washington Post, Israel is identified alongside Iran and China as a target for US
cyberattacks.
While NSA documents tout the mutually
beneficial relationship of Sigint sharing, another report, marked top secret
and dated September 2007, states that the relationship, while central to US
strategy, has become overwhelmingly one-sided in favor of Israel.
"Balancing the Sigint exchange equally
between US and Israeli needs has been a constant challenge," states the
report, titled 'History of the US – Israel Sigint Relationship, Post-1992'.
"In the last decade, it arguably tilted heavily in favor of Israeli
security concerns. 9/11 came, and went, with NSA's only true Third Party
[counter-terrorism] relationship being driven almost totally by the needs of
the partner."
In another top-secret document seen by the
Guardian, dated 2008, a senior NSA official points out that Israel
aggressively spies on the US. "On the one hand, the Israelis are
extraordinarily good Sigint partners for us, but on the other, they target us
to learn our positions on Middle East problems," the official says.
"A NIE [National Intelligence Estimate] ranked them as the third most
aggressive intelligence service against the US."
Later in the document, the official is quoted as
saying: "One of NSA's biggest threats is actually from friendly
intelligence services, like Israel. There are parameters on what NSA shares
with them, but the exchange is so robust, we sometimes share more than we
intended."
The memorandum of understanding also contains
hints that there had been tensions in the intelligence-sharing relationship
with Israel. At a meeting in March 2009 between the two agencies, according to
the document, it was agreed that the sharing of raw data required a new
framework and further training for Israeli personnel to protect US personinformation.
It is not clear whether or not this was because there had been problems up to that point in the handling of intelligence that was found to contain Americans' data.
It is not clear whether or not this was because there had been problems up to that point in the handling of intelligence that was found to contain Americans' data.
However, an earlier US document obtained by Snowden, which discusses
co-operating on a military intelligence program, bluntly lists under the cons:
"Trust issues which revolve around previous ISR [Israel] operations."
The Guardian asked the Obama administration how
many times US data had been found in the raw intelligence, either by the
Israelis or when theNSA reviewed a sample of the files, but officials
declined to provide this information. Nor would they disclose how many other
countries the NSA shared raw data with, or whether the Fisa court, which is meant to oversee NSA
surveillance programs and the procedures to handle US information, had signed
off the agreement with Israel.
In its statement, the NSA said:
"We are not going to comment on any specific information sharing
arrangements, or the authority under which any such information is collected.
The fact that intelligence services work together under specific and regulated
conditions mutually strengthens the security of both nations.
"NSA cannot, however, use these
relationships to circumvent US legal restrictions. Whenever we share
intelligence information, we comply with all applicable rules, including the
rules to protect US person information
